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Debating "Average" Federal Salary Figures
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| Close | Change | YTD | |
| G | $13.2033 | +0.0011 | +0.64% |
| F | $13.5947 | +0.0048 | +1.95% |
| C | $13.6927 | -0.0027 | +3.59% |
| S | $17.9723 | +0.0233 | +9.18% |
| I | $18.5302 | +0.1287 | -0.04% |
| Close | Change | YTD | |
| L 2040 | $16.1474 | +0.0291 | +3.28% |
| L 2030 | $15.9136 | +0.0249 | +2.93% |
| L 2020 | $15.6956 | +0.0208 | +2.45% |
| L 2010 | $15.4351 | +0.0080 | +1.41% |
| L Income | $14.0647 | +0.0064 | +1.33% |
March 13, 2010
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Do any comparison you want
Private Sector
Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:21 AM
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Do any comparison you want, any of the ones mentioned here in the comments, and it won't matter - you will all still think you're underpaid compared to the private sector and will still complain about the figures being inaccurate since they don't reflect your unique position.
Re: Do any comparison you want
Department of Treausury
Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:55 AM
Please explain 'adjusted'
V.A.
Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:24 AM
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Ralph, your article reported OPM's data for the median ADJUSTED federal salary (non-postal Executive branch) is $60,636. Please clarify what "adjusted" means. Like you said, our salaries are a subject of very keen interest.
Thank you!
Two Observations
DFAS
Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:55 AM
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I have only two observations to make:
First, as others have said, there is still no comparison of salaries for like occupations.
Second, your last paragraph looks like a basic sign-off. I suspect that we can figure that you're sick of the subject and don't plan on saying too much more about it.
Debating 'Average' Federal Salaries
DoD
Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:40 AM
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I think you are still comparing apples and oranges when you talk about average federal salaries compared to the "average" American (whatever salary pool that is). If you talk about specific jobs and associated salaries, the picture is much clearer. I'm a GS12 Step 4, Rest of US, Lead Engineer for the USAF. If I were working on the outside for a large company, my salary as a lead engineer would be quite a bit higher than a GS12 Step 4, Rest of US, based on comparable work and responsibilities; i.e, a lead engineer at Boeing or Northrop Gumman. No one can dispute that.
What is he selling?
DoD
Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:12 PM
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Mr. Smith (who from his company hat and shirt has "Contractor" written all over him) continues to pound home his finding of 60k per annum again and again in the hopes that we will see the light and stop complaining. He makes a point of posting comments made from his previous articles, but those postings are all complaints about "average" pay, which he continues to counter. He has never commented on the need to compare like positions, which is a complaint more common than any other with this article. Why is that?
Mr. Smith is very selective in posting comments, just as he is selective with the information he provides in his writing. I can't help but wonder who pays his various salaries...
Re: What is he selling?
fedsmith
Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:38 PM
Re: What is he selling?
DoD
Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:32 PM
Forgive me if I don't believe you.
Re: What is he selling?
Dod
Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:18 PM
Average Salary
NAVSUP
Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:54 PM
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I think you fail to take into account that many of the lower paying jobs that used to be performed by Federal employees have now been outsourced to the private sector. This occurs under the A-76 program when it is determined that the job is not inherently governmental. I believe this skews the data.
Also, I work in contracting and make decisions that determines where millions of tax payers dollars go. I have always fought hard to save Uncle Sam money during negotiations. I hardly believe my counterpart working for the company trying to get the Government contract is making less money than me. Government bonuses are a joke as well, were they taken into consideration when comparing us to the private sector? My neighbor got a 50% of his salary bonus last year. My annual performance appraisal award equated to 2%, that was actually pretty high compared to my co-workers in the field.
I did not take the job for the money
DLA
Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:55 PM
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I took a pay cut coming here. I wanted to serve my country. It's a patriotic thing. I also know that many Americans try their best to make as much as they can. I guess I should thank my lucky stars that I know about frugality, thrift, and Good Will stores. I live debt free except Child support, and the mortgage. Mr. Private Sector, I spent 10.5 years in the Army and am a Disabled vet. I have an MBA, and have been a senior level person at the Fortune 500, 200, 100 levels and know first hand that many (not all) government employees are underpaid. In fact my old employer is trying to get me to come back. Do you want to know what the carrot is? MONEY.
I guess it's a good thing there are soldiers, and civilians willing to keep us safe. Milton Friedman might even agree. Maybe sometime in the future I will make the "Median", or yet better the "Average." Thank you for the oppurtunity to serve. God Bless America.