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Union's No Confidence Vote Was "Sense of Duty and Devotion to this Country"

Union's No Confidence Vote Was 'Sense of Duty and Devotion to this Country'

Carson
We the People
Sun May 20, 2007 7:47 PM

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Thank you for showing support. Many do but are have not been acknowledged.

The thing that concerns me about any sort of immigration law reform is that every few years they re-invent the same laws. Each time they work in amnesty and gravy parts for the illegal aliens. They are always quick to hand out the amnesty and gravy parts but they never do get around to the enforcement parts of the laws.

Do they really need a shiny new set of laws when they have never given the old comprehensive laws a test drive?


Notices of intent to fine employers:


1997: 865
1999: 417
2000: 178
2001: 100
2003: 162
2004: 3


Worksite arrests of illegal alien workers:


1997: 17,554
1999: 2,849
2000: 953
2001: 735
2003: 445
2004: 159

Re: Union's No Confidence Vote Was 'Sense of Duty and Devotion to this Country'

One of the People
None
Mon May 21, 2007 6:31 AM
Interesting chart, but I suspect there are a number of reasons why the numbers change as dramatically as they do---including the fact that after 9/11 the emphasis shifted to border protection and anti-terrorism and somewhat away from immigration enforcement. Right or wrong, I imagine that would explain a good bit of what one sees here. Thanks for sharing.

Do Not Support Bonner

Border Patrol Agent
USBP
Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 AM

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I, as Border Patrol Agent, do not support Bonner. He doesn't speak for me. All we have received from him lately is political grandstanding and obstructionism against the Border Patrol.

I can say that I don't like every thing that the Chief has done but I have seen a great improvement in the Border Patrol in the last ten years.

Things have gotten way better than when I came in and I give that to the Chief and not the union.

The union does do some good but mainly loses our respect when they spend our money to represent agents who don't deserve our money.

I didn't get to vote on the resolution and I certainly didn't get a trip to Corpus Christi like the union leaders did.

Bonner, get back to helping us and not your political career.

Nice work....

Employee
CBP
Mon May 21, 2007 7:20 AM

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Is management paying you to do this stuff?

I've never seen a supposed union leader do more to lower the image of his union, his agency, and federal employees in general than you.

If that's your idea of leadership, no wonder AFGE got its clock cleaned in the recent CBP election. I can't imagine a Bob Tobias or a Colleen Kelley being dumb enough, or unprofessional enough to go on TV and attack a top management official by name.

What did you think that would accomplish? Did you expect Bush to promptly fire him? Or did you figure it would help you get more for your unit members—assuming you ever get around to negotiating another contract?

You had your 5 minutes of fame all right, but at the cost of setting federal unions back 5 years.

You need to decide whether you want to be a media star or a real union leader. Better yet, the border patrol unit needs to bring in a real union to represent them, one with a focus on improving work conditions, rather than grandstanding.

J. T. Bonner Response

Financial Program Analyst
DLA
Mon May 21, 2007 7:43 AM

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When I read the original article, the first thing I thought of was that I had taken an oath to defend the Constitution, not any president or policy. I'm glad Mr. Bonner responded to the article (and was very eloquent in his response on top of it).

Who do these people work for?

Federal Employee
Another Government Agency
Mon May 21, 2007 8:07 AM

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"…the unnamed writer mistakenly believes that employees of the executive branch of government work for the President of the United States and are thus obligated to carry out his or her policies, regardless of how misdirected they might be. "

It is a "mistaken belief" that federal employees should carry out policies of the President? Really? Is the border patrol now an independent agency that simply does what it wants?

This is another dishonest argument. Their "beef" is that Chief Aguilar has promoted policies that are part of the Administration of which he serves. He is a political appointee; all political appointees do the same. No one elected the union to make immigration policy, if people dislike the immigration policy of the current President, they have a chance every four years to elect a new one. Why can’t Mr. Bonner figure this out?

What a Crock...

IT Specialist
DOJ
Mon May 21, 2007 8:54 AM

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While there may be some delegates to union conventions who have their constituency's best interests at heart, it has been my experience over the past 23 years in government service that union "delegates" are primarily self-serving lackeys who's primary goals are to generate increased dues for the union and to shamelessly self-promote themselves within the union system (usually because they are less then stellar performers in their actual job). T.J. Bonner's assertion that the delegates represent the sentiments of the "vast majority" of the front-line border patrol officers is a crock of you-konw-what.

Re: What a Crock...

Border Patrol Agent
United States Border Patrol
Mon May 21, 2007 3:32 PM
You're misinformed or ignorant or both....TJ does represent the sentiments of the vast majority of Border Patrol Agents. He does it very well.

Re: What a Crock...

Fed ee/Officer/Delegate
Fed agency
Tue Jun 5, 2007 9:17 AM
Smells like sour grapes....Did you, perhaps, lose a Delegate election?? I have been an Outstanding performer 34 of my 35 year career. (1 year was "Highly Effective."). I have been an officer and delegate for 4 terms now. It insults me when people like you state comments generalizing that union "delegates" are less than stellar performers and that our primary goal is to increase union dues. Now that is a CROCK! Who do you think pays these dues? Dah? Hey, and as delegates we are on our own time...It's called annual leave or LWOP.

WELL SAID

ELR Specialist
VA (Former Border Patrol)
Mon May 21, 2007 9:56 AM

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TJ:

Well said and eloquently written as usual.

JD

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