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All for it
DoD
Mon Jul 9, 2007 8:57 AM
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I have watched too many people with so-called "great" insurance through their government jobs go wanting for care because the co-pays and deductibles keep increasing while the care is decreasing. I know people doing without meds or care now (including me) because those co-pays are so high. Then, of course the premiums go up every year or so, eating up what little pay increases we get (15% rate hike vs. 3.5% raise--a negative equity situation for sure). I wouldn't mind paying what I currently pay for insurance into a universal health care system if I knew I would get the care I am paying for. With regular insurance, I am at the mercy of the bean-counters in the back room.
trading dollars for votes
civilian agency
Mon Jul 9, 2007 9:22 AM
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Politicians often underestimate the savvy of the voters. Promising universal health care to benefit everyone--often accompanied by promises of someone else paying for it--will generate votes and political support. Most of us know it won't be free and that all of us will be paying for it at least in terms of diminished quality and availability of services.
The survey showed a consistent response among those who have been in the military or foreign countries with national health care. We can be sure our Congressmen will still have access to the private ward in Walter Reed; those with private jets and a hundred million or so in the bank will pay whatever it takes to get quality health care, and the rest of us will be standing in line or hoping to find someone who can help and wondering what happened to the system we used to have.
It seems the survey showed a health skepticism about the empty political promises. Nothing in life is free. We are already paying for many without insurance who go to emergency rooms in hospitals and get free health care by law and regulation. At least those of us with insurance can get good quality care even if we don't like the co-pays and rising premiums. Looking for the free, better quality health care for everyone is a politicians plea for votes and doesn't reflect reality.
National Health Care
Private Citizen
Mon Jul 9, 2007 9:29 AM
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Anyone who thinks National Health Care is a good thing should check out places like Canada, taxes on everything are out of sight & the reason is to pay for their so called FREE Health Care, we had a Senior breakfast in Niagara Falls Dennys and cost almost $25.00 for two & when I requested an explanation they told us it was to pay for the Health Care Program!
Re: National Health Care
DOD
Mon Jul 9, 2007 3:20 PM
Nearly $25 for two people. That's maybe 10% more than the price of Denny's around here. I don't think paying 10% for everything yet not paying insurance costs seems like a bad idea........sounds like savings to me.
It's easy for us as federal employees to say that we don't want such a system. After all, we have health insurance (most of us). Ask those that don't and you'll find a higher percentage that are at least in partial support of this.
If there were free competition in the healthcare industry perhaps prices would be reasonable. I'm all for free markets, but that's not what we have. There's very little competition. No competition = people charge whatever they want.
National Health Care
USAF
Mon Jul 9, 2007 10:38 AM
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We keep getting advised that Social Security is going down the drain; that Medicare and Medicaid will go broke; we see billions of our tax dollars thrown away in Iraq; veterans cannot get medical treatment; and on and on and on - does anyone seriously think that they will get better health care from the federal government? How much more can the taxpayer be expected to fund? This would be a death spiral to bankruptcy.
National Health Care
Veterans Affairs
Mon Jul 9, 2007 12:03 PM
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We claimed to be a wealth country on this earth, why are we throwing our own people out on the street when they can not pay for medical services? What are we? We sure can afford any kind of war(s), why we can not afford for National Health Care (Michael Moore: Sicko Film)?
NATIONAL HEALTH CARE
PRIVATE CITIZEN
Mon Jul 9, 2007 12:22 PM
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i am for this, at least we would get medical care, at this point if our insurance does not cover this procedure or the co-payment is to high we dont have it done. the vets get a lot more care than you think, and loads of benefits on top of it. retired and dissabled make big bucks "75.0000 and up per year, check it out, and non service connected get their share plus. the vets have the system worked out better than the goverment act crazy and you get more taxpayers money. they should do a study on that and see what it costs.
Re: NATIONAL HEALTH CARE
DOD
Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:59 PM
I don’t know who you think gets $75,000 and up a year plus medical but I know first hand this is not the norm as my father was a 100% disabled VET and he got exactly $2,100 a month with a wife to support. You can do the math anyway you want and it only comes to $25,200 per year. Yes he did have medical but not my mother, they still had to pay for her medical.
A question of profits
HHS
Mon Jul 9, 2007 1:11 PM
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It is an undisputed fact that eliminating for-profit insurance companies and streamlining paperwork would save approx. $350 billion per year, more than enough to pay for health care for everyone without paying any more than we already do.
William McGuire, CEO of United Health Group - the largest private insurance co. - made total compensation of $124.8 million in 2005. Other CEO's make anywhere from $10 to $25 million or more.
People like Retired Fed Employee and other ignorant fools don't pay attention to facts - they spout off absurd assumptions that have no basis in truth, like statements about the Canadian health system, where, BTW, profit in health insurance is largely absent.
There are people with the same philosophy as Retired Fed Employee who look at the facts and still believe that it's better to waste money in paperwork and administration and pay some guy $125 million than provide health care for those "no good lazy people". At least you know where they stand.
Re: A question of profits
usda
Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:52 AM
Re: A question of profits
DoD
Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:56 AM