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When Bad Supervisors Happen to Good People: The Price of Poor Supervision
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Great Article
TSA
Thu Aug 9, 2007 9:33 AM
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Thank you for the insight. You touched on things I have always felt were important. Having been on both sides, supervisor/manager and supervised/managed I have seen good and bad and have most likely fallen into those two categories myself! Can’t wait for more!
Bad Supervisors
SSA
Thu Aug 9, 2007 9:37 AM
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The employees are not the only people who suffer from bad supervisors. The good supervisors also suffer. When a supervisor does the manage by walking about, or checks on his employees process he/she is more likely to see the immediate problems. But when the good super takes action for poor work products or other reasons it is out of step with the other supervisor and it is used against them in grievences/EEO. That's when the bad supervisor becomes the good supervisor in the eyes of the union and also the EEO. I have been through both where I know I did a good job because I always worked with my personnel to handle any problems. No matter where I have worked I have always come across this problem and have no way to solve it. I just continue to do my job and be labled a harrasser.
Half a system
DA
Thu Aug 9, 2007 9:55 AM
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This is why the NSPS won't work the government created half a system. The half that is missing is employee input on their supervisor's preformance this includes first line supervisors input on their boss too. A company I worked for had a system for confidencial input about your boss at their review time. This two way system weeded out the slug bosses and employees over time and the pay pool was not spent on dead beats and their friends. Join a union and push for a whole system now and get the dead wood out of government now!
bad supervisors
usda
Thu Aug 9, 2007 10:20 AM
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Sometimes you have a good first line supervisor who gets no back up from his supervisor. you can have six great employees that work well with the supervisor, and the one trouble maker. then when the first line supervisor tries to crack down on the trouble maker he gets no back up, assistance or guidence from the higher ups. in fact they stonewall everything the first line supervisor is trying to do. AND, back up the problem employee. that is when you get the other employees leaving. why be loyal to a department that lacks backbone. In fact our supervisor transfered to a different state to get away from the problem employee.
Bad Supervision
TSA
Thu Aug 9, 2007 10:45 AM
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TSA is rampant with poor supervision thus the record high turnover rate. Senior Field Management (FSD's) are allowed to do whatever they want and the subordinates pay the price. No wonder the morale is so bad.
Lack of management training
DoD
Thu Aug 9, 2007 11:21 AM
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I've worked and managed in the private, government and military sectors, and have too often seen bad managers and witnessed the undue stress they create.
One big problem is that the character traits for bad managers corresponding to the behaviors complained about in the cited survey (i.e., controlling, micromanagers, egotistical) make it difficult to train them. Effectively, bad managers often need to be trained to not be themselves -- no easy task. Ironically & unfortunately, controlling, egotistical, micromanagers are often the people who are most driven to be the boss so they can better control things and feed their egos. It is also a sad fact that if bad managers are perceived as being successful, the individuals they manage have little or no chance in changing the status quo. Solution? Require management training before starting and continuously survey employees anonymously to determine if managers need more training/counseling
Can't Wait!
DOD
Thu Aug 9, 2007 11:23 AM
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For part 2! Great article. I have found in my 16 + years experience that training and "chain" support are the two most important factors in a good supervisor!