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"So, Mr. Einstein, what do you plan to come up with next year?"

Working for America Act

Former HR Specialist
Federal Agency
Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:42 AM

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The Administration's rewrite of the Federal employment rules should be renamed the "Working for America for Less Act" bill.

Mr. Einstein

E.E.
Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:40 AM

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"Imagine if the scientific community had responded to Einstein's revelation that e = mc2 with, 'So Albert, what do you plan to come up with next year?'"

Terrible example. He came up with General Relativity, the explanation of Brownian motion, and the basis of the photoelectric effect, to name only a few, if not the next year, during his "miracle year," 1915.

Re: Mr. Einstein

Nameless, Faceless Nobody
DOD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:17 AM
That's the point! He had a "Miracle year." While his genius continued to wrestle with the implications of these breakthroughs, he did not have the same level of genius strike again. If he were being graded on a yearly basis he would have an outstanding in his year of great breakthroughs but only "average" the rest of the time.

It would be unreasonable to expect a "Miracle Year" every year. Even so, I can't imagine anyone but an NSPS rating official ever considering Einstein as "average."

Re: Mr. Einstein

Financial Analy$t
AF
Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:33 AM
If Einstein was under NSPS, the next year he would come up with c=sqrt(e/m), then M=e/c^2. The possibilities are endless. Way to go Al......

Performance Appraisals

Retired Supervisor
Department of the Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:45 AM

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Subjective performance standards such as “writes efficient computer code” are almost impossible to defend. Even in the case of more clerical work, the subjective standards are easily bypassed. As an example, I’ve seen a standard to file X amount of documents in a day. Everyone met the standard because as the end of the day drew near, a fist full of documents was files somewhere even though it was the wrong file.

The “protection” systems for government workers creates the greatest danger for all civil servants. Contractors never fire poor workers. They just wait until once contract has expired, everyone is let go, and the good ones are hired for the next contract. By letting the managers use their common sense and subjective judgment, the contractors easily outperform civil service which is stuck with the poor performers and trouble makers.

Re: Performance Appraisals

Engineer
Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:27 PM
Tell the emplolyees of Lockheed Martin who lost the Deep Water Contract for the Coast Guard. The Government hired them to do the whole shooting match. The same thing the Government would have done and they way overspent their budget. I can't imaging any of those employees being rehired on the next project.

Re: Performance Appraisals

Retired Supervisor
Department of the Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:11 PM
......... and were they replaced by civil servants? No. You really need to read with greater care. You missed the point.

Re: Performance Appraisals

contractors not so hot
dod
Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:57 PM
Most of the contractors I have seen are way below average experience and ability compared to the civilians. Most of them are hired as friends or drinking buddies of the contract management. They miss deadlines all the time with no punishment and don’t even have to be at work for all the hours we pay them. But we can’t hire more civilians so we are stuck with the below average producing contractors because that is our only option. Bad management will let contractors slide just as much as they let anyone else.

New system is too subjective

IT Expert
DoD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:46 AM

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I would support the NSPS if EVERYONE had to take a series written tests to objectively prove that they have kept up their skills. The NSPS is so subjective that only the supervisor's OPINION counts. That's what makes it corrupt and unusable.

I recently got to comment on my supervisors NSPS 360 appraisal. He said he had to choose a handful of people to appraise him so he sent it to me because we were friends. This is corrupt.

Re: New system is too subjective

Air Force Manager
Air Force
Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:13 PM
I wish it were true that the supervisor's opinion counted. As NSPS is being executed in my "pay pool," the 1s, 2s, 4s and 5s must be presented to the pay pool board for justification. The board then reviews the quality of the supervisor's write-up and votes on the rating of an employee they don't even know. If the supervisor did a poor job of writing or if the employee does a job not easy to measure, the supervisor is sent back for a re-write or must present more evidence.

Maybe Einstein is a good example... who was qualified to judge the merit of his work at that time? An accountant? A doctor?

So how do we rate intellectual products today? Lines of code? Pages of policy? Dollars spent?

Yes, the supervisor SHOULD have the majority vote. Who better? Or should every Einstein be rated equally?

Appraisals

IET
Defense
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:48 AM

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35 plus years of service within the government system of changes in evaluating personnel and being evaluated comes down to one thing. How well connected is the individual in the rectum arena? Who do they know to pull the string? MONEY helps to convince placement.....GO Brownie!!!

Really Good Article

L/MER Spec
DA
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:51 AM

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"Everything is critical syndrome" manifested itself almost as soon as the ink of Jimmy's signature dried on the Civil Service Reform Act establishing the bifurcated path of performance and discipline. Everyone with a program to push wanted it included as a critical element in everyone's standards because the promise of CSRS was that the non-disciplinary correction of performance would be easier with the lower standard of proof. This proved not to be the case. Now it looks like it'll be the same deal with NSPS. Looks like we're doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. Well, at least now when I try to advise someone to do discipline now and not wait to address an issue in the performance cycle I can grab a copy of this article and prove it's not only me thinking this way. It's always easier to deal with a discreet event and set of facts than the totality of the person's service and you don't have to catch them failing and then let them fail again (PIP) before initiating action.

It's Scary!!!

Fed Worker & Union Guy
DOD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:59 AM

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It's scary that Fedsmith might be the only & best training tool, for many managers about to rate employees this way!!! This is a zero sum game. Some will get more than average, some will get less, & a few get ZERO. After 2-3 years of busting their tails & jumping through hoops, employees will tire of getting 2, 3, or 4 percent pay raises, which the golden boys & golden girls get more. They will grow sick of hearing about how money is tight because of budget issues & the War on Terrorism.

Re: It's Scary!!!

ELR Specialist
Department of Veterans Affairs
Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:07 AM
Your analysis is right on target. In my local area, there is a documented $24,000 gap between public and private sector in my occupational field and my private sector counterpart gets far better benefits (full dental and eye included as part of medical) and huge performance bonuses.

Government has relied far too long on the "nobility of public service" ideaology in which government, as an employer, relies on the good will of citizens to serve in government. This approach may have worked in the JFK era when median home prices were $13,050 and JFK was an inspiring figure; it does not work anymore. As you said, federal employees get tired of the 2-4% annual pay raises offset by increasing insurance premiums.

The current approach of government in recruitment and retention has miserably failed. It is time for government, as an employer, to confront the elephant in the room and recognize, "It's the pay stupid!"
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