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Working for America Act
Federal Agency
Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:42 AM
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The Administration's rewrite of the Federal employment rules should be renamed the "Working for America for Less Act" bill.
Mr. Einstein
Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:40 AM
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"Imagine if the scientific community had responded to Einstein's revelation that e = mc2 with, 'So Albert, what do you plan to come up with next year?'"
Terrible example. He came up with General Relativity, the explanation of Brownian motion, and the basis of the photoelectric effect, to name only a few, if not the next year, during his "miracle year," 1915.
Re: Mr. Einstein
DOD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:17 AM
It would be unreasonable to expect a "Miracle Year" every year. Even so, I can't imagine anyone but an NSPS rating official ever considering Einstein as "average."
Re: Mr. Einstein
AF
Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:33 AM
Performance Appraisals
Department of the Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:45 AM
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Subjective performance standards such as “writes efficient computer code” are almost impossible to defend. Even in the case of more clerical work, the subjective standards are easily bypassed. As an example, I’ve seen a standard to file X amount of documents in a day. Everyone met the standard because as the end of the day drew near, a fist full of documents was files somewhere even though it was the wrong file.
The “protection” systems for government workers creates the greatest danger for all civil servants. Contractors never fire poor workers. They just wait until once contract has expired, everyone is let go, and the good ones are hired for the next contract. By letting the managers use their common sense and subjective judgment, the contractors easily outperform civil service which is stuck with the poor performers and trouble makers.
Re: Performance Appraisals
Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:27 PM
Re: Performance Appraisals
Department of the Army
Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:11 PM
Re: Performance Appraisals
dod
Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:57 PM
New system is too subjective
DoD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:46 AM
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I would support the NSPS if EVERYONE had to take a series written tests to objectively prove that they have kept up their skills. The NSPS is so subjective that only the supervisor's OPINION counts. That's what makes it corrupt and unusable.
I recently got to comment on my supervisors NSPS 360 appraisal. He said he had to choose a handful of people to appraise him so he sent it to me because we were friends. This is corrupt.
Re: New system is too subjective
Air Force
Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:13 PM
Maybe Einstein is a good example... who was qualified to judge the merit of his work at that time? An accountant? A doctor?
So how do we rate intellectual products today? Lines of code? Pages of policy? Dollars spent?
Yes, the supervisor SHOULD have the majority vote. Who better? Or should every Einstein be rated equally?
Appraisals
Defense
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:48 AM
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35 plus years of service within the government system of changes in evaluating personnel and being evaluated comes down to one thing. How well connected is the individual in the rectum arena? Who do they know to pull the string? MONEY helps to convince placement.....GO Brownie!!!
Really Good Article
DA
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:51 AM
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"Everything is critical syndrome" manifested itself almost as soon as the ink of Jimmy's signature dried on the Civil Service Reform Act establishing the bifurcated path of performance and discipline. Everyone with a program to push wanted it included as a critical element in everyone's standards because the promise of CSRS was that the non-disciplinary correction of performance would be easier with the lower standard of proof. This proved not to be the case. Now it looks like it'll be the same deal with NSPS. Looks like we're doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. Well, at least now when I try to advise someone to do discipline now and not wait to address an issue in the performance cycle I can grab a copy of this article and prove it's not only me thinking this way. It's always easier to deal with a discreet event and set of facts than the totality of the person's service and you don't have to catch them failing and then let them fail again (PIP) before initiating action.
It's Scary!!!
DOD
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:59 AM
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It's scary that Fedsmith might be the only & best training tool, for many managers about to rate employees this way!!! This is a zero sum game. Some will get more than average, some will get less, & a few get ZERO. After 2-3 years of busting their tails & jumping through hoops, employees will tire of getting 2, 3, or 4 percent pay raises, which the golden boys & golden girls get more. They will grow sick of hearing about how money is tight because of budget issues & the War on Terrorism.
Re: It's Scary!!!
Department of Veterans Affairs
Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:07 AM
Government has relied far too long on the "nobility of public service" ideaology in which government, as an employer, relies on the good will of citizens to serve in government. This approach may have worked in the JFK era when median home prices were $13,050 and JFK was an inspiring figure; it does not work anymore. As you said, federal employees get tired of the 2-4% annual pay raises offset by increasing insurance premiums.
The current approach of government in recruitment and retention has miserably failed. It is time for government, as an employer, to confront the elephant in the room and recognize, "It's the pay stupid!"