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Reform, Retirement and Hot Air: Will Boomer Retirements Create a Crisis?
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without an act of congress
usda forest service
Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:25 PM
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There are so many rules to hiring,,,,,promoting, and training people that I want to scream. I will retire in 2.5 years. One person in Range who started in 2001 has still not been moved to full time status and recently moved to Recreation. This person is mid- thirtys and still doesn't have a full time job!!! (He's a terrific worker and I had hoped he would replace me. Now he is in a different series and will not be replaced.) How long are these young people supposed to wait to be full time permanent employees while the agency waffles around in indecision?) the scep program helped but sometimes the scep decides they hate the job they chose and bail. It is really a mess. The complicated hiring and promoting structure make it worse.
retirement creating a crisis
Veterans Affairs
Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:39 PM
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75 % of my employees will be eligible for retirement in 3 to 5 years, "developmental training" is in no way shape or form on their minds at this point. Aqain, the government is so far removed from the needs of the system that it can't see the forest for the trees.
Reform, Retirement and Hot Air: Will Boomer Retire
DOD
Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:07 PM
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You are correct, it's mostly hot air. The political powers of either party DO NOT CARE. The appointees care ONLY about shoving NSPS down our throat. Only when whole departments are run by teenagers or drug pushers AND the social security checks don't get delivered will the star to care. As on member of congress said, that as civil servants we are not important because we can't vote as a bloc or take unified job action. If they don't care about Walter Reed, "dumb civilians" don't matter. They want to CUT the civil service, not strengthen it.
Re: Reform, Retirement and Hot Air: Will Boomer Retire
DOD
Thu Nov 1, 2007 2:56 PM
Hot Air? Of course...
Been Around
Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:22 AM
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Much of the rhetoric is indeed hot air. Why? Because the "Sheeple" are herded through crisis after crisis by those who foist these horror stories on them. The government has NEVER been the solution to anything that is solvable by markets and their dynamics. The labor market is no different.
Boomers are retiring later - right now the maginc numbers are 62 years of age and 5 years beyond eligibility. In the meantime, rather than panic, it would behoove agencies (and Congress) to look at easing manpower demands - or start placing work outside the DC metro area, which is overheated in terms of employment.
There are slack human resources out there. Want to "save" rural areas? Start placing significant jobs in strategic declining areas to anchor populations otherwise headed to major urban areas.
Once the computer cable goes into the wall, it doesn't matter where the other end is.
Re: Hot Air? Of course...
usda
Fri Nov 2, 2007 10:48 AM
Yes, the Boomer Retirements will cause a crisis
TAS
Thu Nov 1, 2007 9:39 AM
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We are already in crisis mode. When employees retire they are not being replaced. This causes more work for everyone. It is rediculous what our congress has imposed on Federal Workers since we cannot fill the positions of retirees. Our jobs have become so stressful that as soon as you are eligible for retirement you run out of the door. Years ago individuals would stay years after eligibility. And we had seasoned knowledge to help us do a good job. Now that the stress levels are so high all we want to do is go home or we are so sick we have to retire. Federal workers have been given a bad rap saying we are no longer able to do our jobs effectively, so we are going to cut funding and send the work to the priviate sector. This is not true. More workers should be hired so that we could continue to do a good job and more money will be going back into the system to help with the financial crisis our country is in. CONGRESS STOP SENDING OUR JOBS TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
Hot Air and Poor Management
Independent Federal Agency
Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:30 AM
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It's amazing. The Director of OPM and others are really touting the idea that there will be an employee pandemic in the not-to-distant future. She and the many other senior executives that believe this may be right. Personally, I do not believe it, but that does not make me right either. However, I think the focus is misplaced. I believe the attention should be on the following question:
Why is everyone going to bail?
Well, we know some of the reasons. Regarding current federal employees, some can’t endure the thought of another round of political appointees, thus removing chances for upward mobility. Some people are tired of the fact that many in supervisory positions or higher won’t get rid of the dead weight. Many do not see the security when there is a constant battle to outsource positions, even though in many cases this costs more than having civil servants. Still many more are tired of incompetent people that are supposed to be leaders and mentors, not to mention the many outdated methods that are far behind private industry.
For career seekers, it’s fairly straightforward. The hiring processes are ridiculously bureaucratic, confusing, and lengthy. Plus, there is also the common thought that many people in government are incompetent and or lazy. Unfortunately, I can’t disagree, and that is sad as it takes away from the majority of us that honestly want to do a great job for the taxpayer. Further, I disagree with the notion of hiring retirees to do the jobs. That is just a knee-jerk reaction to a scenario that hasn’t even surfaced, and it will lead to an uncomfortable work environment based on authority and “who leads who” issues.
Boomer retirement
SSA
Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:38 PM
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Many experienced employees are leaving upon first retirement eligibility because almost everyone who is 50 or older is bypassed when it comes to granting promotions and plum assignments. There is so much emphasis on the younger employees, I'm afraid that the agency will be suffering a tremendous brain drain in a few years when the people with the years-long institutional knowlege all leave due to frustration and lack of motivation. There is a definite sense that CSRS people nearing retirement age are not being rewarded appropriately with promotions, awards, etc because management knows that no one within 5 years of CSRS retirement will be walking away.