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Shutdowns, Furloughs, COLAs, Congress and the 2008 Pay Raise

Don't hit the panic switch yet.

Financial Analy$t
USAF
Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:08 AM

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The Defense Appropriations bill was passed last week which funds the DoD baseline activities. The war supplemental is at issue and lay-off won't help. I think the Army is going to have a tuff time using the baseline appropriation without committing an Anti-Deficiency Act violation. Most of the CivPay money is in the O&M appropriation but in the headquarters activity. Money for operations is O&M but in different activities (transportation, training, operations). MilPay is in the MILPERS appropriation, and the SECDEF is very limited in reprogramming between appropriations. By law, only $15 can be moved between O&M activities. Good luck in Leavenworth

Annual HOG Wash

Retireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Federal Government of the USA
Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:19 AM

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Come on guys .... give me a break .... this is just the annual hogwash scare ..... no money to fund wages .... waste, fraud, and abuse .....

Come on ..... stop brain washing YOURSELVES ... cause u ain't succeeding with the low/avg level GS employees.

Ya gonna cut off my retirement funds too?

Re: Annual HOG Wash

Former LR Specialist
Self-Employed
Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:04 AM
I beg to differ. This is the semi-annual "I need another $100 billion to keep occupying Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely... and without enough funds in the real budget to cover it."

We're selling our assets to communist China so we can keep working on a democratic Iraq. There will be a huge price to pay for this, and either your retirement or your kids' will have to be in play eventually. For now the question is how important are DoD civil servants to this administration. If you were in DoD and facing NSPS, you would know the answer.

Re: Annual HOG Wash

Fed Peasant
DOD
Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:05 PM
Ease up on this guy!! He's entitled to his views!! This is no way to fight a war. I truly believe that we will see change & unheaval on bigger & bigger scales for the USA, probably in 2008. The unexpected will happen over & over on the war fronts, the oil markets, the financial markets, etc. All of the chicken hawk republicans & spineless democrats will be caught totally off guard when this pressure cooker blows. This ain't a tidy little war they can just let simmer & simmer. Our leaders are way out of their league. Our super power days are numbered.

Government Shutdown

Tired
USMC
Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:45 AM

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It would be nice if they worked over the holiday season instead of going home to be with their family. It's too bad that the troops don't have that same option.

Same Song. Second Verse!

Nameless, Faceless Nobody
DOD
Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:10 AM

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This was ugly the last time around, what makes Congress think it will work any better this time?

Budge it

Classification
Air Force
Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:45 AM

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It's a sham(e) this process has degenerated to such levels. Working on continuing resolutions while politicians play games, i.e. tying appropriations bills to policy. Is it any wonder there is so little faith in our elected officials? We talk about voting out the bums, but there are three more standing in line. With very few exceptions, our elected officials should be ashamed of themselves. It's amazing anything gets accomplished in this environment.

I've worked for Uncle Sugar long enough to have absolutely no concern about being paid.

Congress

ES
DOI-BLM
Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:22 AM

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Congress should have evaluations like government workers. Elections could be construed as an evaluation but they don't happen often enough. Evaluations that determine their pay and raises would have to happen every 6 months but then the American people would have their say on performance of their elected "spokesmen". Most of us I dare say would remove them based on lack of performance and fighting like preschoolers. Some of these people are worse than any kid I have seen out of control.

Government Shutdown

Contract Manager
DA
Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:25 AM

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So let me get this straight, You are the Board of Directors, Congress, of a large corporation, US Government, and rather than take care of business you decide to go home, get the picture? I say it appear to be time to change the system? Can anyone say Revolt?

Re: Government Shutdown

IT Specalist
DFAS
Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:36 PM
To Contract Manger-DA

Just vote, that all the Revolt you need.

Re: Government Shutdown

IT Spec
dod
Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:14 PM
"Just vote" sounds good on the surface... but the system has ensured that anybody who has a prayer of winning an election will behave the same way.

Voting out the bad guy may make you feel better but it does nothing to solve the problem. The way the system is fundamentally set up is the problem. Any solution to this problem has to incorporate fundamental changes to this system.
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