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Benefits for Domestic Partners of Federal Employees? Readers Speak Out

benefits for domestic partners

Claims Examiner
DOL
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:22 AM

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There are two issues here - one concerns access to insurance and one concerns legal marriage. As long as gay Americans cannot marry there will be a push to allow domestic partners to receive health benefits. Allowing domestic partners to be insured does raise problems with how to limit the coverage. Here are some solutions:

Create universal health insurance. It would eliminate the need for people to marry in order to protect their family members (by which I mean life partners gay and straight).

Legalize gay marriage. This would provide gay partners the same legal status as straight ones including health benefits, married tax status, legal recognition in medical emergencies etc.

Create a national civil union open to all; anyone who wanted a religious marriage would have one addition. The legal rights and obligations of marriage would belong to the civil union as in some European countries. The religious observance, rules etc. would belong to the denomination.

Benefits for Domestic Partners

Contractor
USDA
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:30 AM

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Obviously your purpose for taking this survey was not an unbiased one. You seem to give more credit to the Christian Fundalmentalist stance than equal say from any prospective.

I think we should ban anyone who smokes, drinks, eats red meat and has any decease from being permitted to sign up for Federal Benefits. I also think single individuals should not have to subsidize baby factories by paying for health benefits they don't use.

FedSmith is Biased

Manager
USDA
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:31 AM

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My comments in support of the legislation wasn't included - I am for the change. My comment stated that the federal workforce protects every possible category - family status, marital status, every color possible - either protect all employees or none. Heck, the feds even hire illegals!!!

Would like to have known how many respondents who were against the proposal were of color. Surely, they feel they deserve to be protected based on the color of their skin. Shameful that any minority would not support the only minority who lacks protection in the federal workplace.

As for the Editor and the biased article - it isn't hard to deduce that the article would be focused on the those who were opposed. Conservative biase for all articles on site.

The survey was one of the shortest I've seen - should have included, age, political affiliation, race, etc. - the results would have been more meaningful - and certainly more enlightening - to see which groups were for or opposed.

Re: FedSmith is Biased

editor
FedSmith.com
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:40 AM
As there were approximately 500 comments submitted in conjunction with the survey and we only published a small number that generally reflected the tenor of the comments sent in by readers. Many of our surveys lead to comments that are skewed in one direction. My guess is because some readers with a particular point of view may have a stronger opinion or are more interested in voicing an opinion. We try to reflect this when publishing the comments. This process, expecially on controversial topics such as the subject of this recent survey, often results in more comments similar to yours or others that are popping up from people who may not have liked the comments from other readers or don't like the fact that more comments were received and published reflecting one particular point of view.

The controversy and free exchange of ideas is actually what makes the site interesting. We are often accused of being too liberal/conservative or favoring Democrats/Republicans or being to prounion/antiunion depending on the news items that are on the site or the opinion of the person commenting. We post most comments as you will see from the FAQ's on our site. Check out the older article at http://www.fedsmith.com/article/291/

All Or Nothing

Field Engineer
AFMC
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:35 AM

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If same-sex couples cannot receive benefits than no one should be entitled! I thought this was a democracy, not a theocracy!

Re: All Or Nothing

IT Specialist
NASA
Wed Jan 2, 2008 3:01 PM
"Executive Order 13087, issued on May 28, 1998, prohibits discrimination based upon sexual orientation within Executive Branch civilian employment. The Executive Order states this policy uniformly by adding sexual orientation to the list of categories for which discrimination is prohibited." Many of the responses here have been discriminatory and homophobic.

Denying benefits for the LGBT community smacks of discrimination based on this Order's statement that "It is the policy of the Federal Government to provide an equal opportunity for all of its employees."

Why Stop There!

supervisor
Customs and Border Protection
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:40 AM

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Why should the financial burden of a high risk category/population (gay/lesbian domestic partners) be born by the mainstream, single or married, federal employee? If it must be that domestic partners (all unmarried couples) are covered by their federal employee’s insurance, then I suggest the creation a special health care group just for domestic partners. Of course, this group will have to bear their own costs based upon their risks and not push off any of their risks/expenses upon the mainstream. Also, to keep this from becoming another form of social segregation, other categories of people should also be included, such as: live in elderly parents; adult children; polygamists; and communal domestic partners (Is having sex with someone the basis for deciding who has a right to receiving health benefits?).

Yes, this is the 21st Century and no we do not live in a socialist country. Don’t ask me to bear the cost of your life style by causing my insurance costs to to up.

Re: Why Stop There!

IT Spec
DOE
Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:50 AM
To the Supervisor Customs and Border Protection (with your bigoted outlook, you should not be in the role of a supervisor).

Applying your logic we should cut the benefits of people who are over weight, drink too much, smoke, etc. As you said in your title, "Why stop there!".

Or, perhaps we should just end spousal benefits all together, that way we could really save money.

Re: Why Stop There!

Attorney
EPA
Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:46 AM
Your comment makes no sense - what in the world makes you assume that being gay puts you in a "high risk" population? If anything, the gay folks that I work with have much healthier lifesyles than the heterosexuals - they eat better, exercise, aren't overweight, etc. Also, perhaps it didn't occur to you that gay women who aren't IV drug users have virtually no chance to contract AIDS, unlike heterosexuals or gay men. Also, they are probably less likely to need expensive maternity care (although many are having kids these days, it's still a lot fewer than heterosexual women).

Re: Why Stop There!

supervisor
Customs and Border Protection
Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:14 AM
IT Spec, DOE: Today it seems people are quick to call others with different view points bigots, racists, etc. Please don’t try and put words into my mouth. I never suggested cutting benefits for anyone. As I stated, we do not live in a socialist country. If you want the benefits that come through hard work (beyond basic welfare), or your significant(s) others’ hard work, then you pay for them ($). When I was in my early 20’s, I had to pay a higher premium for auto insurance because I was in a high risk category. Those who were not in a high risk category did not have to supplement the cost of my insurance, it was covered by my (my risk groups’) increased premiums. Insurance companies also do the same for flood and other kinds of insurance. By creating a high risk benefits category/group, coverage can be extended to those who are of “close significance” to the hard working federal employee, not just domestic partners.

As a supervisor, I try to never “should” on people.

Domestic Behavior

Employee
Dep of the Treasury
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:43 AM

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I find it interesting that so many federal employees can condemn homosexual behavior and sanction illegitimate children being covered in the same system. The homosexual employees have to pay for illegitimate children born into families on welfare, this is not our choice, a result of our actions or something we "spiritually agree" on. How about an attitude that this is just plain wrong. Having children outside the bibilical definition of marriage is unacceptable and should not be sanctioned by covering their healthcare costs. You would say that's ridiculous but I say you are ridiculous, you bigots are the reason this country is going down the tubes. What I don't understand is if we stand for freedom, freedom is for all and all should be entitled to the same rights and benefits as everyone. Most of these opinions come from people who wouldn't know a homosexual if they were bit by one. They see Gay Pride Parades and assumed we are all freaks. We are your neighbors and co-workers

Bigotry

Engineer
Navair
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:56 AM

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I can't believe all the bigots that work for the greatest country in the world.

What is there to stop a gay or non-gay from marrying just to get the benifits??

Answer: None, happens all the time.

We need to join the 21 Century.

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