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Welcome to the Real World! What Will Your 2008 Paycheck Look Like? DoD Makes Last-Minute Changes

Wrong Again

Analyst
Department of Defense
Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:38 AM

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FedSmith.com you are wrong again. Government employees are not afraid of NSPS, Government employees have always been willing to embrace change. The Government Service Employee just does not want to be unfairly paid now or in the future. Government employees are not hyperventilating because they are afraid of change. You make us sound like we are afraid of the future.... They are hyperventalating because this year alone 40% of our bonus increase will not be a part of our retirement pay calculation. That means that the government is reducing retirement each year that bonus increase continue. How come you are not doing a story about the impact of NSPS on a Government Service employees retirement? The government this year rated 85% of government employees as a "3" - in other words as a valued employee. If you were to do a bell curve diagram of employee performance, it would be obvious to you that this distribution is not a normal or fair assessment of most government employees.

Re: Wrong Again

manager
Dod Agency
Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:45 AM
On the assumption that your comment was not meant to be satirical, here is another point of view. I have worked for the government for more than two decades. Whenever change was introduced, unions and most employees always find reasons to be against it. Not that they are against change, mind you, just that there are always many reasons to leave things the way they are. And one of the most important things not to change, is giving everyone the same pay raise each year regardless of performance. It is undoubtedly a system that would do justice to the former Soviet Union in that everyone is treated the same and introducing a performance factor has instilled fear. Not fear of change, mind you, but there are, as always, many, many reasons it won't work and we should not change the system for these many reasons.

We are kidding ourselves if we think we embrace change. Some do and often do well. Most don't embrace change. Until new people come in, that won't change. The new system needs modifications and requires training and requires a culture change. But, in the final analysis, those that have been here for years or decades are afraid of change. Denying it doesn't alter our culture.

Re: Wrong Again

nameless, faceless nobody
DOD
Fri Jan 4, 2008 5:36 PM
Dear DOD Manager,

I have been in civil service for 25 years. My father retired out of civil service. Many of my family have or do work for civil service. In the many years of our service we have very rarely seen changes benefit the average worker.

There has been acceptance of change, (can't do much otherwise,) there has been trying to make the best of what we got, but...we do not feel like things get better, only worse.

Unfortunately we all agree that those who manage to make the best of this new system will only be able to do it at the expense of their co-workers.

I have worked with some truly great coworkers. They have consistently put out a lot of difficult and skilled work with ever decreasing resources. There have been problem-children, sure, but by-and-large I am impressed with my teammates. (Yes, I HAVE worked private, and I would have gone back but for being a CSRA.)

Yet, I fear the worst of us will be those who profit under this system.

Re: Wrong Again

Plumber
DOD
Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:25 AM
The poster must be wrong. When DOD officials testified before Congress on NSPS, they said it would not impact on retirement. They also put out plenty of printed references to that.

The unions said that bonuses don't count in figuring retirement contributions. DOD didn't respond, they just kept saying that NSPS does not affect retirement.

Are you saying someone lied?

NSPS Pay

Director
DoN
Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:41 AM

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The federal government in addition to competing with the private sector has competed within itself for talented employees. Now it will do so with another major pay system. Will employees migrate out of NSPS to GS agencies or will GS employees migrate into NSPS? Will employees benefit from moving back and forth? What will the impact be on workforce stability. I'm trying to imagine a major private company doing the same thing!

Pay for performance

Retired Fed
DoD
Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:50 AM

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It's about time . Fed employees need to be paid based on performance, to many have viewed the Within Grade increaase and the congressional approved yearly wage, COLA to be a right and neither one was based on performance. The Sustained Performance award and Quality Step increase were not controlled and for the most part based on the good old boy/girl concept. So lets reward performance insted of coming to work

Re: Pay for performance

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:49 PM
You seem to think that Pay for Performance will end the Good Ole Boy/Girl syndrome yet you provide no details in how it will end. If anything, NSPS provides management with more tools to manipulate the process to reduce pay and retirement benefits across the board. Personally, I think the first line supervisors will try in earnest (At First) to do the right thing, but will quicly become frustrated when their initial assessments are changed at will from higher up in order to stay withing budgets threshholds. Don't think for one minute you are not going to have some financial officer playing with the numbers to make them meet some arbitrary mandate. The Government has plenty of experience in making square boxes fit into round holes. You are already hearing from the powers that be on how great this is while front line managers and employees assail this system at will.

NSPS

Classification
DoD
Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:11 PM

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Rumor has it that if a Dem is elected prez, they may try to eliminate NSPS. Is this true? I may switch parties if that's the case!

Re: NSPS

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DA
Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:02 AM
It's an election year. The political parties are going to say and make whatever promises to get them elected. I am fairly certain that NSPS will not be on their top priority list if they take office, regardless of party.

NSPS

Regulatory Project Manager
Corps of Engineers
Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:15 PM

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I'm a 20-year Federal employee who has regularly received high performance ratings, so this shouldn't scare me. Yet it does! I'm certain that the real intent is to reduce the cost of DOD civilian employment. I'm saddened to see that like the false reports of WMD that led us into the bloody mess we're in in Iraq, the current administration managed to hoodwink Congress into falling for this fiasco as well! It's unfortunate that this didn't die with the drumming out of office of it's cheif proponent, Donald Rumsfeldt!!! By the way, Smith isn't a DOD employee, is he?

Poor Visibility

Air Force Manager
Air Force
Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:16 PM

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While I'm a proponent of NSPS, and (as I said in previous post) believe the objectives are sound, the implementation is complex and lacks transparency. Our NSPS pay (Spiral 1) for this year includes FIVE components: Element 1: an amount determined by historical raises; Element 2: the amount directed by SECDEF or Congress (the 1.0%); Element 3: the historical unit-provided bonus pool. From this, the Pay Pool determines your bonus and a PART of your raise. The fourth pay increase comes from the 1.5%, and the fifth comes from the Local Market.

Where I work, I believe we did a good job, but it was still cumbersome. And because Congress changed the SECDEF direction, the pay pool is now recalculating pay outs. Bottom Line: I still don't know what my pay will be starting Sunday, 6 Jan.

Variability, complexity, transparency and timeliness. All these issues need to be addressed before people become more comfortable. I'm anxious to see people's reaction after the pay outs.

Re: Poor Visibility

Civil Engineer
Corps of Engineers
Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:15 AM
The 60/40 split Congress wanted over the SECDEF's 50/50 split was in the DoD appropriation bill the President failed to sign into law before it expired (a "pocket veto"). You are exactly correct in stating we (NSPS DoD workers) do not know what our pay is at this point in time. It is all the more important that the President applied the entire difference between his (3%) and Congress (3.5%) to locality pay. This keeps the basic pay down which is what your retirement "high-3 average pay" is computed upon. This is true for both CSRS and FERS covered employees. My advice: put as much as you can into your TSP account and create an asset allocation plan. Rebalance once a year. It get more into your TSP account set up a traditional IRA and put more into that, then roll that into your TSP account as well. You can not beat the expense load of the TSP.

2008 Paycheck changes

Wildlife Biologist
US Forest Service
Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:44 PM

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In concept I agree with pay raises based on performance. In practice, pay raises would be based on a supervisor assessment of your performance. This would work fine if the supervisor is objective, knowledgable of your work, and fair. In some cases this is not true. Work can be difficult enough for those dealing with a poor supervisor. The thought of them affecting a persons income as well is very disturbing.

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