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Ethics and Government Employees: How Do Federal Employees Compare?

Ethics by agency

Barbara Krueger
Dept of treasury
Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:03 AM

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Are there any ethics studies by agency? I would think that some agencies would by worse than others. You mentioned that punishment goes a long way towards curbing unethical behavior. I know at the dept of treasury and more specifically, the IRS, there are harse punishments for inappropriate behavior. In my experience, I have not seen behavior that would be construed as unethical. just curious.

Ethics

Concerned
defense
Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:15 AM

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Are or is the Good Ol' Boy network ethicial?

Because that's what is pesent in most agencies from information generated by remarks on issues discussed in FEDSMITH.

Improvement is needed.

Good enough for government work?

Editor
DoD
Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:34 AM

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Ralph - I like you and the articles you write, but I hope you were being facetious when you said, "...here is a bit of good news. A new report shows that there is more criminal activity among state and local government employees than among federal employees." How is that GOOD news? I guess I'm old-fashioned (and maybe a little naive), but I like to think that most of us got into this federal government "gig" did so with the best and (hopefully) most noble intentions. Are we perfect when it comes to ethical behavior? Of course not. But I like to think that at least some of it sinks in when we are required to read government ethics standards annually. Bottom line, even those who are ruthless enough to defraud the government generally pay for their stupidity - that is, they usually GET CAUGHT. So obviously some government watchdog system is working. Also, not to blameshift, but it seems to me the contractors mishandle A LOT more money overall.

Re: Good enough for government work?

editor
FedSmith
Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:46 AM
Thank you very much for your comment. The comment in the article was somewhat tongue in cheek but it did convey that the federal government finished ahead of state and local governments in the ethics survey on which the article was based. The fact the federal government finished ahead of other levels of government in the ethics study is good news--certainly much better than if we had lower levels than other levels of government. The study also compared governments (at all levels) to private business and did not find any significant difference. Your point that federal contractors may have more ethics problems than federal employees may be true. The report did not address that as it was not just about issues at the federal level. (Our attorney prefers we have a citation for any statements that may mention specific individuals or organizations.) We certainly see various articles about criminal behavior among contractors--unfortunately, it seems we are also seeing quite a few from among our own community and it does not seem to be diminishing--which never ceases to amaze me because, as I have sometimes referenced in columns, my expectations for my former colleagues in government have always been high based on my own experience in working for a few different agencies. Unfortunately, I sometimes saw a different side of how government contracting works when I worked as a contractor. After working on both sides, some of the court cases and independent studies are not as shocking as they would have been before that private sector experience.

Disillusionment Plays a Part

IT Specialist
USDA ARS
Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:12 PM

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With Congress and the White House constantly trying to reduce federal staffing at the expense of those who are kept, trying to justify cutting federal benefits rather than pork barrel expenses (think GPO), and the constant threat of outsourcing replacing federal workers, morale keeps taking a hit. This is definitely not justification for criminal or unethical behavior, but it may explain the "unreported" behavior. No one is going to pat a whistleblower on the back, let alone give them an award. Also, when articles on multibillion dollar sole-source procurements are popping up constantly, that also sets a tone.

TSA Lack of Ethics

Supervisor
TSA
Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:04 AM

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TSA if full of unethical leadership. If you wish to talk to me about it I can be reached at 817-715-3724.

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