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Same as NSPS
DOD
Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:26 AM
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This would make the GS similar to the NSPS.
The NSPS has no time in grade requirement as well as many other flexibilities in choosing which candiddate to promote.
For instance in the NSPS an appointment is an option rather than a promotion. This bypasses what we normally think of as the competitive process of merit system promotions.
I don't know if appointments in lieu of promotions of this nature are possible presently under the GS system. If they are I have just not been exposed to them.
PAY FOR PERFORMANCE
USDA
Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:37 AM
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Until someone figures out how to prevent supervisors
from showing favoritism and honoring boot lickers pay for performance will not work. We have two on our unit that can do no wrong, they get the perks and promotions the rest of us are just common folks who do our jobs and whose noses are the same color as the rest of our face.
Total Yearly Salary under NSPS
US Army, Corps of Engineers
Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:44 AM
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The article citing the comment "Would you rather receive 3.5% raise - or 7.6% raise?" is a little misleading. The employees in the NSPS system do not get WGI's - or do they? I am not really clear on that. Also - the employees who used to get large cash performance awards are getting less in a bonus under NSPS - judging from the ones I know under the NSPS system and who got an exceptional rating. In figuring in these factors, it seems to me that they get a little bit less (all total) under the NSPS system. But like I said - I don't know a whole lot about NSPS, and I could be wrong on this.
Re: Total Yearly Salary under NSPS
DCMA
Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:57 AM
Don't get excited or panic yet --
Army
Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:44 AM
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For starters it won't matter one ioda if you eliminate time in grade if you continue to use the OPM Qual Stds. For those thousands of us now under NSPS Rules we do not have time in grade restrictions any more. Wow! That must be nice -- wrong. We still have the OPM qual standards so employees, per our servicing staffing folks, still must meet their requisite one year specialized experience at the next lower grade. Ergo - it makes no difference.
Reading this article it looks like taking away the time in grade would open some flexible doors. Maybe - I didn't stop to read the Fed Register so if they eliminate the OPM Qual stds with it then we would begin to be more aligned with private sector. But not yet --
52 Week Time in Grade Requirement
Army JAG
Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:54 AM
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The 52-week time in grade waiting period is way too short. And for new employees, supervisory and non, it isn't really enough time to test them in there new jobs. Who can't do a great, even superb job if need be, for a year? Not many people for sure. And there are far too many already who are average at best but are being elevated because of other attributes.
Re: 52 Week Time in Grade Requirement
DOT
Fri Feb 8, 2008 3:41 PM
Good article
Still interested
Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:05 AM
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This caught me (and probably many others) by surprise. It is well written and well researched. Golly, I hadn't thought about the Whitten Amendment in decades!
I believe this to be the next example of how OPM is paving the way toward mature management/HR decision-making. (Fewer regs and more latitude) Unfortunately, OPM has done little, if anything, to pave the way toward more mature decision-makers! It must be frustrating to work there.
Time in grade
FLETC
Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:38 AM
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Who are they kidding? WE have brother working for brother, husband working for wife, wife working for husband, this is a green light to promote the family even faster then before. We have instructors who don't meet basic requirements and were selected over disabled vets who are qualified. and then promoted as soon as possible. This will speed things up for "THE CHOSEN".