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Readers Favor Retaining Time-in-Grade Restrictions for Promotions

1226 respondents

Director, Community Support Policy
DON
Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:18 AM

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Of the thousands of GS employees I would not consider 1226 respondents to be a true reflection of GS employees opinion on the subj. But this small group does make for a story

Re: 1226 respondents

LER Specialist
DHS
Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:35 AM
Actually, to achieve statistical reliability in a study only requires about 1000 to1500 participants using methods that include random sampling. Even given the fact that the participants in this survey are self-selected, rather than randomly selected, with more than 1200 participants you are still seeing a fairly representative samle of of the mind set of Federal empoloyees on this subject.

Re: 1226 respondents

Program Analyst
FAA
Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:59 PM
The sample is of fedsmith readers who I imagine are fairly well tenured employees who may have a bias toward keeping the time-in-grade restriction. Though the fact is the respondends could be anyone, gov or not.

Time in Grade

Personnel Manager
Air Force
Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:25 AM

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I see a dychotomy: those new to government seemed to be in favor of getting rid of T-i-G; those with years of government service see the merits of T-i-G.

If you waited 10 years, you'd get the same split. Newbies think is't not to their advantage and mature employees think it makes a sense. Wissdom comes with age and experience!!!

Re: Time in Grade

Human Resources Specialist
DOI
Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:37 PM
I agree - there is a distinctive difference between government workers and private sector workers. There is a culture within the government that must be learned. What I see is a new group of individuals entering the government who are of the "instance gratification" era. They want to see immediate results for their actions and believe just because they have a degree (in some cases, not all) that they are the better qualified candidate; therefore, they are entitled to better benefits, including pay. This is not so - Anyone entering a position must prove that they can perform at the highest level before they should be allowed to earn the highest level (grade and/or salary). What about problem employees – at this time we can withhold a WGI as incentive for the employee to improve performance – take it away and there is no incentive for improvement. There will be too much abuse and there are plenty of other incentives available to recruit without having to change the WGI rules.

Favor removal of TIG

HR manager
USDA
Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:47 AM

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In today's highly competitive environment, the restrictive TIG is not helping us attract and retain the best employees. I am ot surprised that those who have been in Federal service may view it less favorably than those new to the Federal govt...I have been in th Govt for 28 years but I think it is time to give folks credit for other experiences they have when applying for promotion rather than have them wait years to satsfy TIG.

time in grade restrictions

Revenue Agent
Internal Revenue Service
Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:03 AM

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There re pros and cons on both sides. Obviously older personnel, many of whom come here to have health benefits in retirement and obsolete hiring rules that bring in a Masters holder as a 5 would want them abolished. However, my concern is that the elimination in conjunction with the proposed pay for performance plans could create a major boondoggle.

Time In Grade Restrictions

Legal Admin. Assistant
U.S. Attorneys Office
Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:29 PM

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I believe the time in grade restrictions should be lifted. I believe it should be tried across the government to see how it would work.

Time-in-grade promotions

Claims Representative
Social Security Administration
Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:45 PM

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I have been held back by the time-in-grade requirements watching others get promoted around me that produced less and lower quality work than I. It is not fair to me nor the public we serve to favor those that just drone along doing mediocre work when there is a highly qualified hard worker available for promotion. Those that have been with the agency for longer should be better qualified than a new hire because of their experience. However, if they aren't the best then they do not deserve to move up. I believe doing away with the time in grade requirement with increase competition and productivity within the agency. We have those that may abuse this by promoting the Good Old Boys, but it is not a good enough reason to restrict highly eligible people from even being considered for promotion do to their length of service.

Time-in-Grade

Program Technician
Farm Service Agency
Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:07 PM

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If Time-In-Grade restrictions are removed it will allow more favortism with supervisors. I have seen people who do the least work granted time off awards or with in grade increases and it was not based on their work but favortism. Removing the time-in-grade will only allow this to happen more.

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