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Study & Advertise the Deferred Pension!!!

Fed Worker & Union Guy
DOD
Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:31 AM

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In my nearly 13 years of fed service, I have seen people leave without even a notion that they are entitled to a deferred pension, with as little as 5 years of service. In the past, personelists did not utter a word about it as they outprocessed. They would encourage the refund of their FERS/CSRS deposit, which just adds to the tragedy of it!! I would like to see a law passed, that would task OPM to seek out all qualified former feds & inform them of this entitlement. It would also require OPM to assist them in applying. When your a senior citizen, an extra $100 or $1000 a month could be of significant help!!

Re: Study & Advertise the Deferred Pension!!!

Analyst
DOD
Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:59 AM
We really have no one here in the Air Force to help us with retirement info. We had an early out last year and there were several people that had to pay ex federal HRO specialists $100.00 or more for help figuring out there retirement. When asked for help the personelists here simply referred them to the "specialist on the outside". What ever happened to these federal specialists?

Need to consider all options

Near leaving this agency
This agency
Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:55 AM

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I believe that what you state is true, but on the other hand each individual needs to look at their situation. Other income; married; if married, spouse's age and work situation, health and what you really want to do in life.

I like, Liaison Accountant, have a boss that came in with the attitude that they did not expect to get the job applied for and did not want to move to the state presently living in with this job and wanted a 15 as high three for retirement. This person made up their mind they didn't like me from the day they walked in and without even looking at my work and or background. This person could not even write a grammatically correct evaluation. So, I am just trying to lay low, but have come to the conclusion that there are other jobs out there whether government or not and if you start preparing for retirement you do not have to wait for full eligibility and then you can be like the brother-in-law of Former HR Specialist, you can leave when time is right.

Re: Need to consider all options

Analyst
USDA
Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:05 PM
Actually, you are better off waiting. If not, you will end up "jumping from the frying pan into the fire." I know of a number of people who left under the situation described and later regretted it. Some tried to get back into the government, but unfortunately were unable to. So think it out carefully and don't be too much in a hurry. You might end up losing more than you thought.

Take This Job and Shove It!

Analyst
USDA
Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:16 AM

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At the end of the article it is stated: "Perhaps now we know why we haven't heard too many co-workers telling the boss what to do with the job."

My reply to that is: But, oh have we ever been tempted!

Information provided to retiring individuals

systems analyst
USAF
Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:57 AM

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My comment refers to the many statements we've seen about the knowledge of the DP folks who are advising potential retiree's. They seem to have been victims of gorss mishandling of experienced workers. My husband was told he HAD to withdraw his TSP. We found out later that was incorrect, but can't do anything. We get told by all the 'info' columns to get a retirement estimate in order to make long term plans; can no longer do that in the AF. I've been trying to get one since last May. I read where someone hired a retired personnel specialist to help; I would do that in a minute if I knew where to get one. Those of us at the mercy of someone's workforce shaping plan, that got rid of all the experience in the field really need some options!

retirement prior to eligibility

retired
RETIRED IRS
Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:44 PM

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To senior CPD representative. I think the original statement referred to someone who retired early WITHOUT an early retirement offer. These people have to wait until 62. Also, I don't know of any system where you get 85%. It is possible that of you have the maximum TSP deduction you may have nearly 80% (comparing take home) as you will no longer have this nor the basaic 7% CSRS deduction after retirement. Also income tax will be lower. Also, the main reason people won't leave prior to eligibility is the health insurance issue. Even if someone were able to walk into a private sector job with more pay, and good health insurance, unless that company covers retirees (and most don't) it won't pay to leave since you will not be able to carry Government health ins into retirement. After you retire from that later private sector job, then what? Medicare only, that's what. It is health insurance that is the number one "job lock" for federal retirees. 3 years to go? Find a way to "tough it out"

Re: retirement prior to eligibility

Analyst
USDA
Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:29 AM
Not losing my Federal Employee Health Benefits is why I am staying - I now have one year, nine months and a few days left to retirement. I know that I can wait until then even though I am truly fed up.

Health Insurance

General Engineer
DOT
Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:34 PM

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I think if I am not mistaken, that there is both a delayed and deferred retirement. One of the two will allow you to reinstate your health insurance when you become eligible to receive your annuity. I just don't remember which of these two plans but will try to find out. The only problem then becomes that if let's say you are 56 with 20+ years of service, that you'll have to wait 4 years to have your health insurance reinstated. So you'll go 4 years without health insurance. Now if the new administration does get to the point of passing into law universal health coverage, there you go. You now have nothing else preventing you from retiring.

Re: Health Insurance

John Grobe
Federal Career Experts
Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:30 AM
The "delayed" retirement you are thinking of is FERS MRA+10 retirement. You may postpone (delay) your receipt of MRA+10 benefits and your FEHB is also postponed. When you reinstate MRA+10, you'll get your FEHB back. Not that long ago, there was an article on MRA+10 on FEDSMITH.

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Supv. Fin Mgr (Ret)
USAF
Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:07 PM

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Good grief - where does 85% come from? I worked 42 years; got credit for an add'l one year (S/L saved) - and only got 80% of Hi-3 average. And that was CSRS.

Re: Take This Job

plumber
vha
Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:45 PM
seems like you should be getting 82.25% based on your years of service,any body out there agree?

Re: Take This Job

Consultant
DVA
Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:36 PM
That's why you did not get the 85%. You did not let the plumber calculate your retirement estimate. Perhaps the one above that got bad advice on FERS payback not being permanent should have gone to the plumbing shop too.

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