Readers' Comments
Total Comments: 109
Page 1 of 9
Page 1 of 9
« Previous | Next »
Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They Did Not Anticipate
Total Comments: 109
Page 1 of 9
Page 1 of 9
« Previous | Next »
Free Email Newsletter
| Close | Change | YTD | |
| G | $12.5776 | +0.0014 | +2.42% |
| F | $12.1775 | +0.0527 | +2.07% |
| C | $14.5805 | +0.0906 | -11.95% |
| S | $18.3049 | +0.0823 | -7.50% |
| I | $19.9848 | +0.0985 | -19.29% |
| Close | Change | YTD | |
| L 2040 | $16.3460 | +0.0804 | -10.38% |
| L 2030 | $15.8749 | +0.0691 | -8.82% |
| L 2020 | $15.4580 | +0.0575 | -7.16% |
| L 2010 | $15.0006 | +0.0321 | -2.97% |
| L Income | $13.3845 | +0.0197 | -0.63% |
Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They Did
IRS
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:49 AM
Post Reply
Why not create a separte TSP Fund for Frequent trader and let them trade as much as they want with a fee attached to it. I can understand their need to make more money, but not at the expense of those who save in the TSP for their retirement. I do not appreciate the fact that these folks are trading constantly and it could bring the value of my TSP account down which I depend on for my retirement.
Re: Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They Did
Retired Navy
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:42 PM
Re: Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They
Navy
Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:58 PM
That is a major overstatement. Using the TSP own inflated and biased numbers frequent trading cost each I fund investor .07 percent for 2007. This would mean that if you invested in the I fund (and the I fund is the only identified as the supposed problem) it would have cost you .07 percent to have the freedom to move your money as you please.
Fuddy Duddies frustrate transfers unnecessarilly
W. E. Donoghue & Co., Inc.
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:53 AM
Post Reply
Is Congress acting responsibly "for the purpose for which it was intended?" I doubt it.
Spending is out of control and TSP investment accounts are at greater risk. Stock and bond markets could soon be in freefall and removing barriers for responsible retirement savers to transfer prudently is the goal, not frustrating the savers.
David Walker, Comptroller General of the Government Accountability Office, recently resigned out of frustration with government spending. Medicare Part D alone doubled the National Debt at the time of its passing.
The financial markets (as reflected by the recent market downturn) are reflecting the disastrous consequences of that overspending. TSP investment accounts must be easy to control.
'Boomers are the best-educated generation in human history. They can make responsible decisions. After all, it is their money, not the directors' money.
TSP directors should get with the program, not be fuddy duddies.
Re: Fuddy Duddies frustrate transfers unnecessarilly
VA
Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:40 PM
Re: Fuddy Duddies frustrate transfers unnecessarilly
Federal Govt
Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:42 AM
I appreciate your comments, but I disagree with this one. If you will but read the childish attacks and outright lies (e.g. daytrading the TSP) that are being plastered to this board by those "boomers" who are angry that everyone else isn't losing money like they are you will see that not everyone is capable of making responsible decisions. After all, isn't it irresponsible to attack someone else who makes wiser decisions (and, hence, has superior outcomes) as opposed to endeavoring to improve personal performance?
The TSP board should endeavor to provide on-line tools for each participant to improve themself, and authors of articles such as these here should stop fomenting the preeminence of dark side (self-destructive) behavior.
Market timing?
navair
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:58 AM
Post Reply
We are constantly told that market timing is not a good idea. This implies that on average moves intended to time the market are in the long run either neutral or negative in effect. THis implies that the effect described in the article, in the long run, would be neutral or positive for us long-term investors.
Re: Market timing?
Spawar
Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:51 AM
Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They Did
Farm Service Agency
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:59 AM
Post Reply
When a few investors are affecting the earnings of the majority then it is time to take action. I applaud the action of the TSP management for taking a rapid and postive step to protect the majority of the TSP investors.
Re: Exposing Long-Term TSP Investors to Risks They Did
DOD
Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:57 PM
Long-Term TSP Investors Unanticipated Risks
FEMA
Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:08 AM
Post Reply
Isn't it interesting that the TSP folks get so worked up over a few trying to move their move to avoid shortfalls, when the cost on a per person basis is not terribly significant. On the other hand I believe Exposure to Risks we didn't anticipate, i.e., the sub-prime mess are more important to the average TSP investor, particularly since it appears to have started the drop in the market since last October. How do we cope with people who purchase houses they know are unafordable. How do we copy with companies that may have duped buyers.
Did the TSP funds invest in stocks/funds that participated in all the various gee-whiz mortgages companies and packages. If they were watching this situation, it would seem that they should have picked up on the problem and lightened their problem children to minimize "Investor Risks." Do we need some sort of insurance to cover such cases of fraud, etc in the marketplace??
Re: Long-Term TSP Investors Unanticipated Risks
navair
Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:21 AM
TSP risks assessment
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:09 AM
Post Reply
I believe that if we had better money managers, then people would not feel a need to try to become dat traders. Because TSP is part of the retirement program for FERS employees, theey depend heavily on seeing a pattern of growth for their savings. With concerns about social security which is a part of the FERS retirement strategy, people are uneasy about loosing large sums of their savings in a short period of time. I believe the TSP should have a mechanism for alerting the people when they are at greater risks with some of their savings strategies. I aslo believe that people that invested in the Life funds have been dissapointed with the earnings derived from these funds. The message I got was that the Life funds would be safer and gard against huge losses, but see better gains overall.
Re: TSP risks assessment
dod
Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:28 AM
First, one of the main advantages of the TSP is low cost. The money management help you're asking for is going to drive up costs significantly.
Second, lifecycle funds can only be accurately judged over the long term(several years). They haven't been around that long yet.
Limiting tsp transfers
GSA- Retired
Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:10 AM
Post Reply
It is MY money and only a minute percentage of tsp participants transfer regularly. The tsp board has ALREADY restricted us over two months ago. This irks me !
Re: Limiting tsp transfers
IRS
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:17 AM
Re: Limiting tsp transfers
DoD
Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:10 PM
Why not set-up an account with a online brokerage firm and trade away.