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Fired Fire Fighter
VAMC
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:35 AM
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I too am in a position of public trust and good judgement. This person made a choice in his life to smoke an illegal drug. Again....HE made the choice. Now suck it up and be a man, and move on and learn from your error in judgement. Being a Fire Fighter does not entitle you any special favors. Being a Police Officer does not entitle me to any favors either. I live in a "fish bowl" everyday. Move on.......
Very fine line...Need more and all facts
IRS
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:48 AM
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I see a very fine line with this. Because I lived in a townhome and we suspected a meth lab was next door to me. Neighbors called tip a cop but the offenders moved the lab right after tip a cop was called (in the middle of the night). If I was tested during that time I may have shown positive for this, when in fact I have never in my life used this stuff. Because it was never proven they actually had a lab next door, I would be liable and fired.
Re: Very fine line...Need more and all facts
DoD
Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:57 PM
Firing The Firefighter
Department of the Air Force
Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:13 PM
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This was the right decision. This person knew, when he accepted the position, that his job required him to be drug free so that he could successfully perform the duties assigned to him. He simply failed to live up to his end of the bargain and left his employer no choice but to remove him.
Admiting guilt
DOD
Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:29 PM
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There are false positives. He admited he did smoke, end of story. I'm drug tested, and if I ever test positive, I will at my own expense pay for the hair on my head to be tested at my expense to keep my job. My point is, there is a way to defeat a false positive.
Drug Testing
Department of the Army
Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:37 PM
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If you think testing your hair is protection against a false positive, you are living in a dream world.
No choice
Army Corps of Engineers
Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:17 AM
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The policy for failing a drug test has been well enough known to be zero tolerance. This former employee knew when he smoked he was giving up his job. I don't see why he wasted his money and that of taxpayers fighting it.
Failed and damaging drug prohibition policy
US Dept of HUD
Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:59 AM
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Very complex issue here, but bottom line for me is that we're wasting lives and taxpayer funds on a failed prohibition policy that not only doesn't make us safer, but make illicit drugs so profitable that we have virtually guaranteed their continued availability and the corrupting influence of drug money.
Stupid decision by the Navy man, and a stupid policy. How much did we invest in his training? Does his dismissal make us safer? False positives definitly do occur (though not in this case) and they result in an even more egregious waste, along with the mindless, wildly expensive imprisonment of drug users in facilities where they're immersed in the criminal networks and recruited into gangs that run the business we've made so profitable. What a waste, and what a lousy set of counterproductive policies.