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"We're going to open it (the FEHB) up to everybody"

Open FEHB to public

Civil Engineer
USDA Forest Service
Thu May 1, 2008 10:53 AM

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The FEHB is not a panacea for the medically uninsured in our nation. The logic is unsound as it has been for recent State's attempts to open State Teacher's Retirement systems for an additional source of revenue. Politicians complete lack of ingenuity and original solutions is starkly evident when they grab at model systems of small-scale government fiscal management to be an answer to on-going broad-scale programmatic problems such as health care. Hillary bombed on her first attempt at health care reform as First Lady. It is clear that she has not developed any more solutions over the previous 10 years. How about if Bill and Hillary practice personal philanthropy and utilize a portion of their $200-$300 million income to initiate a no-cost/low-cost health care program for low income folks rather than mandating the working-class government employee to open their hard-earned and hard-won medical benefit system to those who have not put forth the effort to contribute.

opening up FEHB

consumer safety officer
FDA
Thu May 1, 2008 10:53 AM

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Although Hillary states that she will open FEHB up to all US, she has said in the past and also on this interview that she wants a plan like FEHB- If it works for gov employees, then a similar system should be put in place for the US to be sure everyone has health insurance.

Opening up FEHB

HR specialist
retired
Thu May 1, 2008 11:56 AM

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I think it's incredibly selfish to be so unwilling to share this program with the taxpayers who have no health coverage, but whose taxes underwrite our premiums. There are plenty of hard-working taxpayers out there who either cannot afford health coverage: and others whose employers' plans are woefully inadequate, or who are excluded from full coverage because of pre-existing medical conditions or family histories of certain illnesses.

Re: Opening up FEHB

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri May 2, 2008 6:08 AM
As a retiree, you won't mind the extra taxes the Government takes from you in order to share out the FEHB program to all those uninsured and unable to pay taxpayers.

Re: Opening up FEHB

HR specialist
retired
Fri May 2, 2008 9:19 AM
No, I won't. I'm one of those who, while employed briefly in private sector, was unable to get health coverage because of a pre-existing medical condition. So I recognize, and really appreciate, how fortunate I was to have worked for the federal government and to have been covered by an excellent benefits package. And I was also brought up to believe that those who do reap benefits have an obligation to share them with those less fortunate.

Re: Opening up FEHB

OAC
BLM
Fri May 2, 2008 12:11 PM
There are any number of employers in this country who provide some form of health insurance to their employees, but not to the public-at-large. It is in no way selfish for the Federal Government, in the role of employer, to follow this standard.

Re: Opening up FEHB

Nota Doogoder
DOD
Sat May 3, 2008 10:48 AM
Nothing prevents you--HR Retired--from finding someone that's less "fortunate' than you and giving them money for their health care needs!!!!!! Why don't you do it??

Why do you insist that others should pay?

Last time I checked, we all "earned" our benefits and pay.

If HilLIARy takes it from us earners, and GIVES IT to those that aren't earners, then we should all stop working and await the federal largess.

(Hill and Bill banked a cool $110M the last 8 years) Easy for her to be generous with others earned benefits!!

Many might think you don't "need" to waste money on the type of housing you have. It's TOO much! Or perhaps the type of hobbies you spend money on. Perhaps THEY need to make decisions for you.

Re: Opening up FEHB

Analyst
DOD
Wed May 7, 2008 12:34 PM
They do, it's called Welfare, so now you think we should pay twice?

FEHB For Everybody

Middle Manager
USDA
Thu May 1, 2008 8:45 PM

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When I signed on 25+ years ago with the Government, the trade-off for pay compensation was other earned benefits such as health insurance under FEHB. It is an earned benefit that is a part of our overall employment compensation. For the family option the average employer (govt) contribution is about $12,000/yr with the employee kicking in on avg about $3,000/yr. I ask who is going to pay the $12K a year for everybody else. Essentially we are going to just give everybody a $12K benefit? Why work for it? Soon you will be able to get it for free!

I am so disappointed that the dialogue in the public square about Federal employees is they get health care for free. That is really unfair.

No doubt we need to do something in this country, and I not sure what the answer is, as many folks do not have earnings to afford such a plan just for the share that Federal employees have to kick in.

If we think health care is exepnsive now just wait til it is free for everybody!

Re: FEHB For Everybody

Numbers Guru
VHA California
Thu May 8, 2008 5:03 PM
Congress DOES get free health care! And they get paid a LOT more than I ever will! Put them on FEHB and make them pay a share like all the rest of us do. It's only "fair" don't you think?!

Opening FEHB

HR Manager (Retired)
Department of the Air Force
Fri May 2, 2008 8:04 AM

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Opening FEHB to everyone may or may not be the ideal situation or what actually happens in the final analysis but at least Senator Clinton has a plan which can start us on the way to insuring all Americans have exist to health coverage. Now all she and her co elected officials need to do is put forward a real effort to get a reasonable and workable solution. It is a shame that so many of our citizens do not have a way to get health coverage.

Re: Opening FEHB

ATSS
FAA
Fri May 2, 2008 9:45 AM
How come all these Senators running for President have plans that will save the world and they do not introduce them as bills into the Congress? Because they are nothing more than a ploy to win votes. All the former candidates on both sides, where are these wonderful plans now? Awaiting their next campaign so they can say " I HAVE A PLAN!!!!"

Re: Opening FEHB

Analyst
DON
Fri May 2, 2008 10:23 AM
Other countries off extended health care. Guess what, you might have the health care but you can't get an appointment, even for urgent surgery...you get on a waiting list for years from now. FEHB is OUR benefit that is part of our compensation package for serving our country, even if not in uniform. Model a SEPARATE health care plan but DO NOT open up ours. This isn't selfish; it's reality. I'm sick and tired of working two and three jobs in my lifetime to get me where I am today and then watching everyone constantly having their hand out. Not only do they have their hand out, they want more and more and more and think it's due them. If they extend this plan, it will be on the backs of those who have an earned income. NO VOTE FOR CLINTON HERE...

Re: Opening FEHB

HR Manager (Retired)
Department of the Air Force
Fri May 2, 2008 12:44 PM
To ATSS and DON Analyst: Plans have been introduced but nothing has been done because too many of us are out to only protect our own interests. Senator Clinton whether one likes her and her husband or not, has been among those leading the effort to get health coverage to those who don’t have it. We, as Federal employees or retirees, are very lucky to have good health coverage plans and should be able to support using them, at the very least, as a model on how to provide such care to others. If you don’t know how lucky we are, just volunteer at one of the free community health clinics where people without health coverage line up sometimes days ahead of time just to see a doctor, dentist or nurse. It is sad to see so many people, many of them children with working parents, at these clinics. As for the health plans of other countries, no one is advocating adopting them if they don’t provide what our citizens need – all we need are the parts that have proven to work.

Adding People to FEHB

Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Fri May 2, 2008 12:25 PM

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A lot of people are already on FEHB, and Blue Cross, and Kaiser, ad infinitum. That Mexican pushing the mop across the tiled floor at your local McDonald's? He went to the emergency room last week because he was sick and feverish and no private doctor would take him since he had no health insurance. That lady who cleaned your hotel room when you went TDY? She went to the emergency room last week because she was sick and feverish and no private doctor would take her since she had no health insurance. Both of them gave the admitting clerk false addresses; these patients will never get bills, and if they did they couldn't, and wouldn't, pay. Multiply this by several hundred people per week per ER. No hospital can absorb this, so they charge more--much more--to the people who do have insurance. This is why your premiums and co-pays are skyrocketing. We'll all get off much cheaper if the medical system is reformed.

Re: Adding People to FEHB

HR Manager (Retired)
Department of the Air Force
Fri May 2, 2008 6:33 PM
What a shame that you see the world and its people through such demeaning eyes. I sure hope you are not in a position that influences how your agency provides its services. Your ill advised and derogatory stereotypical comments do not contribute to solving the problem of having millions of workers without health coverage. Your comments do, however, give us a clear idea of how you view persons who do not share your race, ethnicity or gender and how unhappy you must be. Many people using emergency rooms do so because they can not go to a doctor’s office since they do not have insurance and this is the only way they can get health care. If anything this is an example of why we need a better health coverage system. The majority of these individuals, and you can check this out with your local hospitals, do not cheat the system. And, as for the Mexican janitor, at least he is working while on the clock and not submitting comments to this column. He is an example for you to follow.

Re: Adding People to FEHB

Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Mon May 5, 2008 11:23 AM
HR Manager Retired, I'm not sure why you're so angry at me, since we seem to be in agreement that a lot of people have nowhere to go but the emergency room, and that this is a deplorable, and expensive, situation that should be corrected.

An urban hospital will be lucky if it breaks even. Don't take my word for it, go do some research. That's what I did. Also, ask people you know who work in the medical field.

I wrote my statement on my lunch period, as I am doing now. Please stand corrected.

Re: Adding People to FEHB

Thorn in the Side
DOD
Wed May 7, 2008 10:48 AM
HR Manager (Ret.) is doing what I have noticed a fair number of people on this site doing - read part of something, fail to read carefully, and fly off the handle. He may have been offended by your remarks about the "Mexican pushing the broom" and the lady cleaning the motel room. However, these are not stereotypes - this is how things are. Women and minorities are far more likely to be in low-wage, benefitless jobs. (Increasingly, those who could have expected to have a "better" job are finding themselves in the same boat; some of the people reading this will probably be there before it's over.)

I liked your comment about the Japanese system, where insurance companies are required to be non-profit. A major problem with proposals to require that everyone buy health insurance in this country is that there appears to be no proposal for control of rates. Can't you see the eeg-zec-u-teevs drooling over that?!

FEHB

Electronic Technician
FEDERAL AVIATION AGENCY
Fri May 2, 2008 2:57 PM

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i believe making fehb available to everyone is the wrong thing to do. first it will diminish the health care of the present federal employee's and in all likelyhood it will increase the cost to present employee's. secondly, it will probably destroy the present system.
why hasn't this subject been brought up before?
this is all a ploy for these canidates to get elected to office.

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