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The Aging--and Retiring--Federal Workforce

Staying longer

Plant Manager
DOD
Wed May 7, 2008 11:39 AM

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While we all know there are many of us retirment eligible, it should be no surprise to see many lingering on the job just because of the financial insecurity due to the policies of this administration.

We've watched our TSP's, IRAs and Roth's take a beating, we have seen prices of everything sky rocket except for the value of our homes which are going the wrong direction. All this has created a certain uneasiness in leaving our jobs. The boomer exodus may not be as fast as expected.

My has always been to work until age 59, I'hope that goal is still possible.

Climate Change...

HR Guy
Been Around
Wed May 7, 2008 11:55 AM

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This issue is the “global warming” of federal employment. There are incredible productivity gains that the government refuses in favor of politically-motivated employment. When the network wire from a computer goes into the wall, it doesn’t matter where the data comes out – next desk, room, building…continent. There are many productivity gains awaiting proper automation and consolidation of administrative functions, from HR to budget to procurement, and that’s just a start. Both management and supervision could also be pruned back. The fact also remains that federal turnover is a fraction of what private enterprise experiences, even if one adds the highest “tsunami” loss estimates. And take a look at longevity, as we live longer, healthier lives that often revolve around professions – a major reason why this tsunami proves akin to a wavelet. Meanwhile, the ice isn’t melting on Minnesota’s lakes…now it’s a “climate change” threat…good regardless of your thermometer readings.

Internal pressures

TSM
DHS
Wed May 7, 2008 1:06 PM

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I believe that in certain incidences internal pressures are created by junior members to a point of accusations that present seniors are incompetent to make way for their own career boost.

Re: Internal pressures

FAA
Engineer
Wed May 7, 2008 3:23 PM
Amen to that. I see that happening here.

Re: Internal pressures

Analyst
DOD
Wed May 7, 2008 6:56 PM
Make accusations to whom? The seniors they're trying to oust? I find it hard to believe that this is occurring on the 20-25% scale.

leaders

ron
DoD
Wed May 7, 2008 3:27 PM

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losing folks in leadership positions does not necessarily mean you've lost leaders.....

Re: leaders

Security Specialist
DON
Thu May 8, 2008 9:33 AM
I couldn't have said it better. You've definitely hit the nail-on-the-head!

retirements

Biologist
Forest Service
Wed May 7, 2008 6:57 PM

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I'm age 53 and plan to retire from the Forest Service the minute I am eligible. The agency has changed in so many ways over the last 5-10 years, and almost without exception, the changes have not been for the better. Trying to hire new people (even temporary hires) is now a nightmare, getting reimbursed for travel is a major hassle, there are endless new process and certification requirements for everything that you do....I could go on and on. My job used to be enjoyable, but it's not anymore. Other than financial security, I can't imagine why anyone would want to continue working here after they are retirement-eligible, under the present set of conditions. I feel bad for the (few) new hires, they are coming into an agency that I don't even know anymore.

The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

Feds Wife
Dept. of Defense
Thu May 8, 2008 7:59 AM

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The real problem isn't so much that federal employees are retiring because they want to. Many of the older men are being forced out of work to make way for *women*, and these women are nowhere near as qualified as the men they replace.

Oh, and employment with the federal government *does* resemble a Dilbert cartoon, again, due to the number of females in supervisory positions who have no idea how to supervise. (*Birthday parties* at staff meetings?!?! Give me a break!)

Oh, and by the way: The number of grammatical mistakes I caught just in this one article (see subject line) would have been funny, if it weren't the norm for federal communications. Federal employment is in a sad state, and not likely to recover from Al Bore's Reinventing Government initiative. (That wasn't a typo.)

Re: The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

Worker
DoD
Thu May 8, 2008 9:33 AM
Wife, I'm sure you've heard of the phrase, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." Enough said.

Re: The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

lawdog
OHA
Thu May 8, 2008 9:34 AM
Are you "for real" or just a plant to increase dialog? (And what is the diference between a *woman* and a woman?) I'd like to comment further on what you have said, but can't come up with enough one syllable words for your little bitty brain to understand. Happy Birthday.

Re: The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

DoD Engineer
Navy
Thu May 8, 2008 4:29 PM
I pity you for accepting the feeble lies of a husband who blames all his lack of sucess on the women in his office.

Re: The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Fri May 9, 2008 9:15 AM
What's wrong with the occasional birthday party at a staff meeting? Most meetings seem to be unnecessary anyway, especially with the advent of e-mail.

Re: The Aging and Retiring Federal Work Force

Peon
Federal Agency
Tue May 20, 2008 10:59 AM
As a female fed who has had a couple of female supervisors, the original post if right on! The women I've worked for have no idea how to manage and got their jobs based on gender, certainly not on ability! Beyond tired of warm, fuzzy "team-building" activities. I'm here to work, not listen to your family problems. Just happy I have a door to close and no longer live on the Dilbert Cubicle Farm!

Federal Hiring Process

20 Year Federal Employee
Cynical enough to not trust enough to respond
Thu May 8, 2008 10:40 AM

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OPM can't seem to get a grip on the hiring process. Most agencies, including the DoD subsets, still use another (usually contracted) step in the process. I advise young people to avoid federal service at all cost and to go to corporate jobs where the HR department can at least spell the titles of the jobs they announce. All it takes is about ten minutes on usajobs.gov to realize that the bus is going down the road without a driver.

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