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Calculating TSP Returns

Federal and State tax bracket?

TSP Novice
Gov
Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:50 AM

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It's a little off the subject, but bare with me...This question is based on an excerpt from an news article.

"...suppose you pay federal and state income tax at a combined rate of 30%. If you put $1,000 into the TSP, you reduce your taxable income by the same amount, resulting in $300 less tax paid."

Where can you find your exact Federal and State tax bracket? The exact tax bracket is not always obvious. So I was wondering, is there a tool that feds can use that tells them their tax bracket and lets them calculate what amount to contribute to TSP to offset their taxes ?

Re: Federal and State tax bracket?

Budget Analyst
DoD
Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:07 AM
The tax brackets that you are inquiring about come from the IRS but here is a link for 2008s tax bracket

http://www.fairmark.com/refrence/index.htm#rates

Take note that you currently pay a 10% tax on the 1st $8,025 (single) or $16,050 (jointly) and then taxable income over that goes into the 15% up to $32,550 (single) or $65,100 (jointly)...and so on. In other words if someone says they are in the 15% tax bracket or the 25% tax bracket - all of their income is not taxed at that rate. There is a range for the 10%, then above that it goes into the 15% bracket...etc. In reality, you make go into the 25% tax but your true rate would be maybe 13% or so.

The brackets are based on taxable income which is your gross income minus pretax contributions like a 401(k), pretax medical insurance and any flexible spending accounts you may have and finally your standard deduction or your itemizations if they exceed your standard deduction.

There are plenty of calculators out there for 2008

Re: Federal and State tax bracket?

Short-timer
Interior
Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:57 AM
I don't have the answer re where to get the state tax bracked. Regarding how much to invest in the TSP, my advice is to invest as much as you are allowed to. This not only offsets taxes, it builds your retirement account. When planning for retirement, it's very nice to know you can afford to retire, look back at how easy it was to invest in the future and realize how little you miss the junk you might have bought if you'd not maxed out your TSP contibutions.

TSP Calculations

Economist
APHIS
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:38 AM

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I like the way FedSmith reports year-to0date returns. I am concerned with the overall performance as the year progresses, not the month. So, keep up the good work!

Invest in L Cycle 10 now?

Branch Chief
DHHS
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:42 AM

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Are there any articles/information that can assist with the following: Employed with the Feds for six years and have contributed to the TSP since I started compiling a sizeable amount of $ so far using the G fund only. Expect to go into Lifecycle 10, since my retirement horizon is within next 8 years. However, the market is bad now. Should I invest part of my total or all in L cycle or should I hold off entirely. Time no doubt is a factor ot maximize on what I do have. Any info'/articles out there that I may refer to?

Display of TSP Returns

Gov Worker
Air Force
Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:08 AM

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I like it as it is now! It is simple and great info for those who only have a few seconds each day to see what's happening. Thank you!

point of view

Civil Engineer
USACE
Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:32 AM

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Is not the idea to buy low and sell high? This is what we (TSP folks) are doing in a down market. To be happy start tracking the shares you buy each 2 weeks and chart those. If you are really a number freak (like me) then overlay that chart with one that shows how many shares you would have purchased at the 1 Nov 07 share price. Then realize, when the market goes back up, how much better off you are.

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UL Manager
ICE
Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:28 AM
This is a myth that really catches a lot of novices. Your point of buy low, sell high is correct. However, as the market continues its downward spiral, many investors are bleeding TSP funds and will not have anything left to "buy low" with. It's no secret that any gains made in the past 10 years have been erased by the last year's bad news.

The folks in the G Fund are truly bringing in and holding the largest share of their TSP investments.

Opinions to the contrary?

Re: point of view

IT Spec
dod
Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:43 PM
"It's no secret that any gains made in the past 10 years have been erased by the last year's bad news."

This is not correct. The current levels of the S&P 500 and the Russell 2000 indexes (broad indexes of the US large cap and small cap stocks respectively) are about the same as they are in early 2006. Both are substantially higher than they were 10 years ago.

Regarding the G fund, it is doing better than the other ones in the short term. Long term(10 years or longer) it lags the stock funds significantly.

Since retirement investing is a long term proposition it obviously makes more sense to look at it from a long term perspective. If someone is approaching retirement age then they have already reaped the benefits of long term stock exposure(assuming they have a properly allocated portfolio) and have substantially reduced their stock fund exposure to preserve long term gains.

Reference Averages

AT specialist
FAA
Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:03 AM

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It woud be nice to see the returns over the last 12 months, rather than the start of the years. This can help factor out some cyclic and seasonal changes.

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Internal Revenue Agent
IRS
Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:01 AM

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In a regular mutual fund, statements are provided that show how many additional shares are purchased when the funds payout dividends. With respect to TSP how does the fund account for the dividends received, and how do they affect the daily price quoted. I feel that the statements provided to those in the TSP should show more detail in order to give a more complete picture of ones account.

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John G.
DON
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:24 AM
Yes, Yes, Yes, ... I would love to see an answer to your question. Sorry I don't know either. Over the years this question has been asked a few times ... I have never seen it answered.
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