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PTSD and the FBI Agent

another view of suitability

Govt Worker
USAF
Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:15 AM

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It appears he wouldn't be suitable for the job based on a review his application: when he signed documents acknowledging that he understood he could be "assigned anywhere, no transfers were available for personal reasons", he was either lying or stupid to think he could game the system and go where he wanted. Either case should be grounds for firing.

This isn't a job a McD's...

FBI & PTSD

Manager
DOE
Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:31 AM

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Clearly there was retaliation & discrimination. Unfortunately, the macho attitude of many 'law enforcement' organizations breeds insensitivity to PTSD (although slowly improving).
However, having said that, I emphatically note that Desmond was clearly aware that he was signing up for deployment anywhere and should have been aware of the potential impact to his health.
Perhaps a more advanced respect for personnel in making deployment assignments is also in order (and a recognition of the resulting recruiting advantage)

Re: FBI & PTSD

Clerk
DOI
Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:32 AM
I'm a Senior Psychology student, & a pretty good judge of people. One thing I've learned is that no one know how they will react to any given situation until it occurs, despite what we tell ourselves/each other. Desmond couldn't have anticipated the impact on his health. It will be interesting to see how the new hearing ends.

Relocate Mother...

Supervisor
DOI
Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:00 AM

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Desmond knew when he applied to be an agent that he had no guarantee of being stationed in Cleveland. Knowing this, why didn't he plan on relocating his mother to wherever his first assignment would have been? Given his concerns about her safety, this would appear to have been a win-win solution.

assignment

fed employee
fed gov
Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:24 AM

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He should have relocated his mother to Chicago, some vacancy announcements states dutie locations will be determined later. Futhermore, as a FBI agent he probably would be traveling all the time anyway so how would he watch his mother if he is traveling 50% of the time.

Common sense--out the window

Assistant Regional Counsel (Ret)
SSA/DOJ
Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:24 PM

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Help, I’m having trouble sleeping–you must assign me to the Tahiti office immediately! This is pathetic–like I want this sleep deprived emotional wreck running around with a gun and looking into criminal activity... Sorry, he may be a wonderful person but his case really illustrates how broken the ADA/Rehab Act is–it has gone far beyond providing reasonable accommodation for real handicaps and now dictates mission accomplishment for federal agencies. The mere fact he knew when he accepted the job that he couldn’t choose his duty location and his generally immature response to that should be enough for them to drop him. The FBI didn’t want to drop him–they hired him and trained him at great expense of money and time–but they acted responsibly in wanting to drop him when it became clear he was unstable. There are many jobs he could probably perform in the federal government but carrying a gun shouldn’t be one of them.

This isn't kindergarden....

Chief CBP
Customs and Border Protection
Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:17 PM

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Hey, he signed saying he was willing to be assigned anywhere, then changed his mind? Tough luck I say. A deal is a deal, go to Chicago or quit.

We need adults working for the govternment, not children.

PTSD and the FBI Agent

Labor Relations Officere
Army
Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:17 PM

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I'm a little confused, he signed a mobility agreement in exchange for being trained in his chosen profession, he signed acknowledging that there were no transfers for personal reasons and yet, in order to get what he wants he goes to EEO??? Where is personal responsibility and accepting the terms of an agreement?? If he wants to be in law enforcement AND live in Cleveland, sign on with the Cleveland PD, not the FBI who told you up front that you might not get your choice of assignment OR move to where your are needed and move your mom in with you. I think I've been in the business too long.

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