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Considering the Filing of an EEO Complaint or Grievance? Think Before You Act
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EEO Complaints
GSA
Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:32 AM
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I successfully filed and won two separate EEO cases an a previous agency, filed one non EEO complaint with another and won. Have considered filing twice since being at GSA and decided that my complaints would not be accepted even on its merits. The only successful complaints at GSA are those filed by minorities, regardless of age or gender. The suggestion to speak with a supervisor is ridiculous since their actions are often the reason a complaint is contemplated. Although the EAP is an option, they really cannot "fix" the problem, but they will listen. In my case, the filing was to stop the action..not just for me but others. It worked. There should be an Ombudsperson (neutral) to be available to hear both sides and then recommend either filing the official complaint/working out a solution. Alternate Dispute Resolution seems like a good idea, but they are volunteers and most are reluctant to trust a co-worker with their deepest concerns with no guarantee of privacy.
Re: EEO Complaints
GSA-until I requested a reasonable accomodation
Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM
Surely you gest. I am an AfricanAmerican Disabled Female that HAD a 23 year squeaky clean work record UNTIL I requested a reasonable accommodation. After my request I was reprimanded, suspended and terminated within a year.
Perception
DoD
Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:49 AM
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Problem with the Writers comments is putting a lot of effort into resolving problems with a supervisor and his Chain of Command, that created the problem(s) in the first place. If you wait and try to use "the System" you will find that your door to filing a "for third party review process" will be closed due to being untimely. And if you think "They" don't know this, you really have a problem. You need to File the complaint as soon as you think or know that something is amist. You can always withdraw it. In my 30 plus years of service, I have found very few manager that have intergrity when owning up to be wrong. The whole chain that circles the wagons to protect the bad. Question for all out there. How many of you know of a manager being removed from service by his Chain of Command without the intervention of a Third Party Review?
EEO VS CIVIL RIGHTS
BUREAU OF PRISONS
Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:07 PM
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sir, i've read your commentary and i feel that it stinks. this agency has long been a good ol' boy system. racism continues to strieve high in this day and time. yes, racism, where the eeo code doesn't matter. people just deal with these issues because they need a job. people like myself who have been blackballed in the system continue to strive for equeal rights and equal justice. therefore, why should i walk away from my present job and began at the bottom? you make no sense and should consider another career.
EEO and the end result
CIS
Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:43 PM
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The problem with some EEOs filed is truly knowing the end result. When you have an employee who filed an EEO and claims he/she was awarded $500.00 and their job back as the end result, it only gets other people more excited about filing. The fact is, there was not $500.00 awarded to the individual. If people are truly honest about what truly happened after a grievence or EEO was filed, more people would think twice. It is the blow-hards that get things stired up.
Stay and Fight
Retired
Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:46 PM
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In response to the suggestion to voting with his/her feet, that is not always possible. A person may have reached an age or have physical disabilities that make finding another job or possibly moving to another area extremely difficult. Sometimes, the only viable options are to accept the discrimination and walk away or retire defeated, or to stay and fight. My lawyers and I won an EEO case Federal court jury verdict and court judgment after a six year fight. My case went through the agency processes, the EEOC, and finally to Federal court. It was worth the fight and my victory was sweet and a total vindication. The author of the article makes many good points, but he apparently does not recognize that agency management sometimes commits illegal discrimination and that employees have legal rights to oppose such discrimination. What good are the EEO laws and regulations if management ignores them and employees cannot effectively use those processes?
EEO???
USMC
Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:47 PM
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I have worked at this command for some time.
I have seen and heard it all.
A lady setting in the cube next to me. She had her supervisor in her office and she was explaining what she needed and required.
The supervisor did not pay any attention to her. WHen she filed an EEO complain the supervisor was telling everyone that she never talked and told him.
We all knew that he was lieing
but the rvisor thought he did not have to comply with the law.
The command is still protecting him (He is one of the good old boys). Instead of the command making him go back to get more supervisor training he is continuing to make everyones lives terrible.
The Command and EEO are in bed together and this could end the command because so many people heard this supervisor.
Again - EEO does nothing.
The individual's life is terrible and all the co-workers know what is going on.
Voted with my feet
AF
Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:33 PM
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I had been with the federal government for 8 years (I'm in my 50s) and unfortunately got a promotion to work for a female Colonel in the AF. Before going to work for her, I had had two performance awards the year before as well as previous years. I went to work for this lady and she yelled and screamed at both myself and the Supt. I'd never seen anything like that in my life. Three months on the job, she put me on a PIP. My big sin was that I required some learning time before I could hit the floor running. The Union told me to file an EEO Complaint. She was such an abusive person that even though I knew she was wrong in how she treated me; I really didn't think I could emotionally handle going through an EEO Complaint. I quit my job (there were no other jobs available at this small AFB in NM). Was able to get unemployment. But when she found out, she demanded that Personnel file against my getting unemployment. I lost unemp rights & have to pay back $2600 somehow.
Re: Voted with my feet
DOD
Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:59 PM