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dealing with under-performing employees
US Department of Education
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:12 AM
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I retired from the Feds last September (2007) and during my 33 years of work I saw a number of under-
performing employees. One in particular was neither
a good worker or nice personally. So, some of the
turkeys are not nice, either!
This employee was given several opportunities to improve or face removal. Even though he did not
improve, he was not removed. In a sense, he had
the Agency by the throat - he was a black male and
of course he was going to play "the race card," charging that anything negative happening to him was based
on race. Of course, this was utter kaka, but it worked.
So, in order to avoid a lawsuit and undue uproar,
ED kept him on board, allowing him to do nothing
and to be a general disruption to his co-workers.
He eventually took a buy-out retirement and is
now part of the agency's history.
This story could be repeated many times over in a
number of Federal agencies.
Re: dealing with under-performing employees
Agency
Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:47 AM
Sit back, let him do his thing, and never, ever, ever, ever,......, ever, whine about what he isn't doing again.
The creator of the monster has little room to cry over it later. And no sympathy due either.
The Promotion of These Individuals
USDA Rural Development
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:52 AM
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My question has always been as to why the incompetent individuals are promoted and the lower level employees are asked to assist those individuals in performing their jobs when we would be able to perform them with a hand tied behind our backs.
A Different Angle
DOD
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:54 AM
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Before becoming too absorbed with the alleged non-performers, what about the people who are good, or even out standing perfomers, & they face hardship & disadvantage, because of management & politics. This is a two way street.
Re: A Different Angle
No Such
Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:47 AM
So to blame pi**-poor-performance, on workers, many times is not the case. A certain amount of charisma and motivation is required on behalf of management, as opposed to those that use obsolete micro-managing techniques to compensate for their own shortcomings as a true leader.
Re: A Different Angle
Department of the Navy
Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:57 AM
CANT Managers
IRS
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:02 AM
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A great article and right on. About the only thing you missed is that those nice cants or wonts in the workplace have a corrosive impact on those that "can" and "will" who end up doing their jobs as well and see the same cants and wonts get their awards and pay raises just like everyone else. Not only are the sticks not used, they are actually rewarded. Like a rotten apple in a barrel, they are a demoralizing and spread their rot. You are absolutely right about managements failure or lack of ability to deal with these employees. But managers are "employees" also, and this is a clear indicator that many of our managers cant or wont manage. And no one in the management chain will take on one of their own. If it gets bad enough they may get moved around so they can spoil another barrel or they get promoted. Nice people, great technicians, turned into incompetent and destructive managers. everyone looses
and it goes on
USDA/formerly DOD
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:04 AM
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I agree with retired. Seems like the most inept folks are the best brown nosers and get to the top faster by stepping on the rest. We have several and even call their offices *the black hole*. They blame others is something is done wrong, never really take resposibility. The real work falls on the rest of us while these *politicians* talk the talk, we have to walk the walk.
Cant's Managers
DoD
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:17 AM
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Here, Here. alot of truth in what your say Mr. Kunreuther; however, what about the Cants Managers. They keep getting promoted and the Rocket Scientists don't seem to have a clue as to why they have the personnel problems. I ask again, when is the last time that a non-performing manager was dismissed from service? And they talk about Leadership. Government management need to pratice what it is preaching.
Failing PIPs
DOI
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:34 AM
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My experience with PIPs led me to conclude that while there are pleny of under-performers, they were often supervised by people who shouldn't have been supervisors. I would give managers pages of instructions on how to administer a PIP - most critical being to track performance closely. However, when they'd tell me the employee was failing, and I'd start asking for some numbers (as in how many times the employee didn't complete that critical report in a timely manner), they couldn't begin to guess. Of course, I'd be the one at fault when I'd suggest they'd lose if the employee appealed...