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Survey Surprise: McCain Trounces Obama in Reader Preference

more usless statistics

IT Specialist
USDA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:39 AM

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all this tells us is the survey was completed by McCain supporters

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Overpaid Peon
DA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:52 AM
all 8 of them

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analyst
government
Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:51 PM
Very good point!!!

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analyst
dod
Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:09 PM
This is so typical... when a poll or vote doesn't go the way you wish it would you just can't resist trying to discredit it.

You have no idea what the demographics of the polling body are, the ONLY thing you know about them is the raw numbers reported in this article yet you try to tell us that it's somehow an inaccurate representation. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

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Nameless, Faceless Nobody
DOD
Wed Sep 3, 2008 10:54 AM
The lack of scientific practice was admitted up front. This is a poll of FedSmith readers who elected to participate.

That this casual polling often produces results that show surprising trends that anticipate the trend developing in the general population was also stated.

I find it interesting as Obama did score better in earlier polls, and that the news outside of FedSmith is reluctantly admitting the change seems to be happening "out there" as well.

Just take it for what it is worth, an interesting discussion point.

Survey Surprise

QAS
DCMA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:47 AM

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SURPRISE is putting it mildly especially so with most of the so called media slobbering over BHO. As election day gets nearer more of the silent majority will hopefully awaken by checking ALL of facts and positions taken by Barack Obama then make wise decisions and will do what is right for America by voting for the best candidate our next President John McCain!!!

Re: Survey Surprise

Overpaid Peon
DA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:56 AM
the fact that you used the letter "H" when you wrote "BHO", is proof enuff that you are one of the mindless sheep that the repubelican party counts on for re-election.

please explain to my why a candiatate's middle name is important to a voter in deciding whether the candidate can be a good president or not.

please learn to think for yourself, instead of spewing hate-filled propaganda that you heard from rush or bill.

Re: Survey Surprise

QAS
DCMA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:17 PM
To Overpaid Peon:

Is that the best you can come up with?

OK you got me on using the wrong spelling on plane vs.plain and as to your other comment of why I used BHO well I guess I could have referred to him as just "plain" old BO did you ever hear of FDR-JFK-LBJ? Like it or not his name is Barack HUSSIEN Obama.

Re: Survey Surprise

Overpaid Peon
DA
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:28 AM
and once again, you prove my point. the mindless repubelican supporters can do little more than spew hate-filled propaganda.

"OH NO, HIS MIDDLE NAME IS DIFFERENT THAN A NICE SAFE ANGLO-SAXON MIDDLE NAME! WE BETTER NOT ELECT HIM PRESIDENT!"

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Accountant
DFAS
Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:28 PM
What is it a problem using Barrak's middle name or initial. Does anyone have a problem with John F Kennedy? George W Bush?

Re: Survey Surprise

Overpaid Peon
DA
Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:07 AM
duh...the W in GWB is used to distinguish him from his dad. (not sure about JFK; before my time)

the H in BHO is used by the right to try to convince non-thinkers (including themselves) that his middle name somehow makes him a muslim and thus a bad person.

in other words, you (and yours) have made the "H" a political statement....

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Contract Specialist
DoD
Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:25 AM
"the H in BHO is used by the right to try to convince non-thinkers (including themselves) that his middle name somehow makes him a muslim and thus a bad person.

in other words, you (and yours) have made the "H" a political statement...."

Overpaid peon, I think you are stretching this a bit. What political statement are people making when they refer to JFK, LBJ, FDR, GWB, WJC, HRC, or any president or presidential candidate through history that has ever been referred to by his/her initials? Your statement makes you appear to be a mindless democratic supporter.

You wrote, "i love it: "plane" ignorance." Since you like to be critical of others' misspellings, I'd like to point out to you that "enuff" should be spelled "enough" and "repubelican" should be spelled "republican".

Re: Survey Surprise

Overpaid Peon
DA
Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:33 AM
yer so funny.

i know how to spell republican. u should really read ALL my posts before you call me on things like that. you'd see that i consistently spell your party's name with the extra "e".

and the denial you must be living in! your party has turned the "h" into a political statement, trying to convince others he's a bad guy just cuz his middle name is different.

i'm sorry for you. folks living in your kind of denial just can't be reasoned with. *sigh* guess you'll be REALLY sad when the "H" guy gets elected.

Obma/McCain survey

Retired
IRS
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:58 AM

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This just proves to me the feeling I had in 32 years of service that discrimination ran throughout the government and has not changed. Any one who would prefer a 72 year old, who changes his mind more often than his Depends needs to stop and think about what and who McCain really is. Being a POW from the Viet Nam era most certainly qualifies him for absolutely nothing and his record as a senator puts him squarely as a Bush replacement. What we need is change, desperately.

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QAS
DCMA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:29 AM
How comical, how sad, or is it just plane ignorance? When everthing looked like BHO was going to win this election by a landslide all was just grand. Now when surveys like this and when more and more polls indicate people are waking up to who and what the senator from Illinois is all about we are called prejudice and other not so nice names. You need to accept the fact that there are some Americans who are capable of assessing information and facts then make decisions that are best for this country, they are not blind sheep or bobbleheads who vote the democratic ticket because there mom or dad or some other mis-guided organization advises them to do so. AWAKEN, SMELL THE ROSES AND VOTE FOR McCAIN.

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Overpaid Peon
DA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:58 AM
i love it: "plane" ignorance.

if yer gonna spew hate-filled propaganda, at least use the right words.

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IT worker
DOI
Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:51 PM
Always nice to be lumped into the ""discrimination"" crowd when it is convenient.

I am not prejudice, I would vote for Colin Powell, or Condoleeza Rice in a heart beat.

I do not feel Mr. Obama is qualified to be a senator, let alone the President.

See you at the polls!

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Retired
DoC
Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:24 PM
To "Retired - IRS".

I can't believe your blatant discriminatory comments " Any one who would prefer a 72 year old, who changes his mind more often than his Depends . . . " -- just who is calling the kettle black?

You disprove your own statement, "the feeling I had in 32 years of service that discrimination ran throughout the government and has not changed".

Clearly, by your retirement, there is at least one fewer racist and age-discriminatory employee still working in the Federal government.

At least the situation has improved somewhat!

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hr
small agency
Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:59 PM
So it's bad to discriminate against Obama based on his color, faith, whatever. But it's ok to discriminate against McCain based on his age? That's very liberal of you....

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Nameless, Faceless Nobody
DOD
Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:17 PM
I was fascinated by the women vs. black set up to the Democratic primary. I was tempted simply by the fact that an historic choice was possible, to vote for either Clinton or Obama when the time came. However, the more I look at and listen to Obama the less I am inclined to vote for him.

Let's get this straight, I am NOT black. However, my knee-jerk response was to vote for the black man. I have changed my opinion in the last few weeks just because his words have left me cold.

As to "Bush light", I think McCain has shown he is willing to work with the "other" side of the aisle. I also believe that Dems will greatly increase their influence in the House and Senate. This kinda makes me want McCain if only to put some kind of limit on congress. I LIKE one of the three, President, House, or Senate, to be held by a different party than the other two...at least keeps some kind of limits on the craziness of both parties.

Re: Obma/McCain survey

Worker
DoD
Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:24 PM
Does this mean as someone with 32 years of service, you also wear Depends and being different than McCain, change them more often than your mind or opinion?

Re: Obma/McCain survey

Programmer
TSO
Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:12 PM
"So it's bad to discriminate against Obama based on his color, faith, whatever. But it's ok to discriminate against McCain based on his age? That's very liberal of you.... "

hr has an excellent point, if you don't want your candidate discriminated against then stop discriminating against his opponent.

Re: Obma/McCain survey

Overpaid Peon
DA
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM
be careful, programmer, they don't like to have their bigotry pointed out...they get all uppity...

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Nameless, Faceless Nobody
DOD
Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:53 AM
I am now a LOT older, (yes, "LOT" shall remain unquantified,) than I was when I first started voting. I have changed my political opinions, my social opinions, my faith opinions, probably every sort of opinion I might have over those years.

I have not changed them quickly. Sometimes a discussion 10 years prior FINALLY got through well enough to change my opinions. However, I refuse to have an opinion in lockstep with any demographic I identify with JUST because that group's leadership or shared decisions say so.

Some of my opinions are considered, some are"knee-jerk". It is harder to change my considered opinions but...a fair arguement will be heard and may one day matter to that opinion.

I usually assume that the many reasonably intelligent people I know have reasons for their opinions and try not to question their integrity just because they disagree with me.

I also accept that truth just might encompass elements of differing opinions.

Try to discuss in peace.

Re: Obma/McCain survey

Programmer
TSO
Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:47 PM
"be careful, programmer, they don't like to have their bigotry pointed out...they get all uppity... "

and we know how uppity and indignant Obama supporters get when somebody practices religious discrimination against their candidate, yet these same supporters are quick to practice age discrimination against their candidates opponent.

Hypocracy abounds in today's political landscape.

Survey

Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:04 AM

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The comments attached to the survey show how poorly informed Americans are (the news media's fault--we can't know what the issues are if we aren't told), and how bad the schools are--few people whose comments were printed appear to have thought through the issues logically, probably because no one ever taught them how to do so.

For the record, I don't think there's a dime's worth of difference between the Democratic and Republican parties--both of them serve lobbyists, not the average citizen. So I see virtually no difference between a potential President Obama and a potential President McCain. And I don't care what either man's middle name is.

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Overpaid Peon
DA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:59 AM
BRAVO! Finally a sensible voice amid the mindless babble.

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Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:59 AM
Gee, thanks, Overpaid Peon! Usually I get yelled at.

By both sides.

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Overpaid Peon
DA
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:32 AM
lol. me too.

most people are afraid to think there might be better choices than the two clones that are forced down our throats every 4 years.

survey

Manager
USDA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:58 AM

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I think you should be careful interpreting the results. Its self selection, so its not a statitiscally meaningful result. Also, I didn't answer the survey because I don't think we should express partisan political opinions on a government computer.

Presidential Choices

Any Fed
VHA
Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:45 PM

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How did our election process get so flawed that many of us our voting for our "less objectionable" candidate? How about a change in the election process to one primary and throw out the electoral college so we end up with a president chosen by the people?

Re: Presidential Choices

IT Specialist
DOD
Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:58 PM
Throwing out the electoral college will never happen. It was set up to protect the smaller states with smaller populations from the bigger states with huge populations. You would never get it through Congress. The states are smart enough to know that the electoral college enables them to have a seat at the table. Without it, they would be sitting on the side lines. The majority of Americans don't even understand how our country was founded and why these checks and balances are in place.

Survey

Concerned about our Future
IRS
Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:54 PM

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The last truely unprepared president we elected was Jimmy Carter. This was backlash from the Nixon/Ford years. Remember how well he handled the Iran hostage situation? If you are too young to remember, please check your history books.
Do not make the same knee jerk decision this year! Too much is at stake. The enemies of the U.S. will have a field day with Barak and all of us will pay. Think long and hard before you vote for someone with no experience.

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