Re: CONSERVATION

So to decrease hunger in the world you would not try to grow more food, you would tell those of us that are too fat to eat less, therefore reducing the demand.

Billions of barrels is more that a "little bit".

We do in fact have to conserve, but to say in the short term to increase domestic production will not help just doesn't make sense. I do not believe it will take years to get this oil to the market. Maybe this guy who is on TV, T. Bone Pickens, has a point. Maybe natural gas is a good idea.My father had a converted 1974 Ford that ran fine on both regular gas and natural gas, (or propane) .

America is a mobile nation, and it will destroy the economy to sit at home and not drive. It will also take years to get all the so called gas guzzlers off the road.(that is of course unless we outlaw them)
Increased domestic production is one of the answers. Atleast for now.

Re: CONSERVATION

Pure nonsense. An increase in supply will have the same effect on prices as a similar-size decrease in demand. And it doesn't take that much. Gasoline consumption in this country dropped about two percent in the last few months and triggered a 20 percent drop in crude prices and a drop of more than ten percent at the pump. Furthermore, just the serious prospect of increased supply (via the granting of new leases) would be enough to lessen speculation and lower prices before even a drop of additional oil gets pumped.

Re: CONSERVATION

Along with decreasing consumption goes the loss of jobs and a stagnating economy putting more people on the government till. That certainly is not what we want to leave our children. We produce goods and service as well as feed half the world. I'll go along with reducing consumption if you will go along with stop giving hand outs to everyone in this country as well as around the world. The more robust our economy is the better off the rest of the world is.

Re: CONSERVATION

Another good reason to increase domestic production of oil is to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. Why be held hostage to foreign countries that could raise the price of oil to whatever they want, not to mention using that money to fund activities against us. Doesn't make sense.

Re: Same old same old

Doing the same thing over and over may be the definition of insanity, but pontificating on subjects about which you obviously have no expertise is surely the definition of stupidity. The technical and economic challenges of developing a nuclear weapon, or even a spacecraft, pale into insignificance compared to the challenges we face developing new energy sources and totally replacing our energy infrastructure. It will literally take decades to accomplish under the best of circumstances, and in the meantime we're going to need a lot more oil, preferably not purchased from our enemies. I'll make you a deal: I won't tell you how to do human resources if you don't tell me how to do engineering.

Re: Same old same old

"We need to get the GOP out of the way so we can develop alternatives and start working to reduce our dependence on both foreign AND domestic oil."

HR Specialist, you're inference that only one political party has hindered this effort is wrong. Both major parties have thrown up numerous roadblocks. Telling us that only one party is to blame is partisan spin.

Re: The Other Side of the Story

....Let's just take up the old "200 mpg carburetor" nonsense. It's been many years since I've run across anyone foolish enough to believe this one. In case you haven't heard, fuel injection supplanted carburetion in all vehicles sold in America years ago, and today's fuel injection systems are more effective at maintaining the optimal fuel/air mixture across all ranges of engine operation than any old carburetor could possibly be. Yet even today's most efficient pure gas-engined cars (i.e., not diesels or hybrids) struggle to reach 40 mpg. Why? Oh, little things like aerodynamic drag and drivetrain frictional losses. In fact, experts think 50 mpg may be about the realistic limit for a pure gas-engined car, and that would be a tiny, slow thing you probably wouldn't like to drive very much. So please stop repeating this baloney. There are enough ignoramuses out there already.

Re: The Other Side of the Story

To Engineer DOD:
You get an "A" grade on engineering & an "F" grade on imagination & context. You don't see the forest, for the trees. The ignorant ones, are those who absorb the spin & progoganda coming from the oil companies, & even the U.S. government at times. The really ignorant ones are those who are too tunnel vision focused & self absorbed, to even acknowledge an odd or different view!!

Re: The Other Side of the Story

fed peasant, conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. Don't be so gullible.

Re: The Other Side of the Story

Programmer TSO:
My "ignorance" & "gullibility" has made me money in the energy markets, for a great many years. I do that by betting against the crowd (herd). THANK God I'm such an ignorant & gullible peasant!!!

Re: The Other Side of the Story

fed peasant, being gullible enough to be taken in by conspiracy theories isn't the same thing as making money in the energy markets. Quit trying to morph your arguement, that's a cheap politician's stunt.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

god may have given us this precious precious oil, but i don't think god meant us to waste it frivously. isn't gluttony one of those 7 deadly things they talk about all the time in church?

and let's not forget the oil companies and THEIR favorite deadly thing: greed.

since you mention god, i'm betting that if a topic search of the bible is done, there will be more positive discussion of CONSERVATION than of SELFISH CONSUMPTION.

in fact, i'm willing to bet that the bible probably talks about seflish consumption as being one of those sin things.

i'm just sayin'...since someone else brought up the god topic.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

Just where can we find our Representatives' and Senators' voting records?

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

comp spec - a quick google search spits out this site:

http://www.votesmart.org/

it looks legit, although i haven't looked deeply into it yet.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

SINS!!! Seven Deadly SINS!!! Geez!

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

Peon, if you're going to use God and Bible in your posts you need to know that those words are always capitalized.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

lol. those words are always capitalized when people CHOOSE to capitalize them. if you have seen any of my other posts, you'll notice that i'm too lazy to capitalize most anything when i type.

and if you'd like to discuss religion vs spirituality and why i REALLY choose not to capitalize certain religious words, i'll be happy to do that with you when fedsmith gets around to publishing an article on that topic.

but methinks we're off-topic now.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

"those words are always capitalized when people CHOOSE to capitalize them."

Nice cop out bozo.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

i guess i don't get the reference to a dead clown just because i choose not to capitalize certain religious words.

and how that's a cop out, i also don't understand. are you saying that i don't have the right to choose which words i want to capitalize?

please clarify.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

clarifying:

The rules of capitalization in the English Language don't change just because you don't like them. They are what they are. Either you're following them or you're not.

You're copping out by trying to convince us that these rules are mere "suggestions" just because you either can't or won't follow them.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

heh. wrong. i think i already mentioned that i was too lazy to use much capitalization. has nothing to do with following or not following "rules of capitalization in the English Language".

no cop out. just the straight truth.

and please, feel free to not only correct me in this forum, mr. grammar/spelling policeman, but all others who abuse your rules. unless of course, you're irritated with my topics and simply need a reason to attack me.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

There you go again, trying to spin the fact that you're wrong. You're trying to use the "lazy" excuse to rationalize why you screwed up.

btw - the rules of English Language's rules of capitalization are not "my rules" as you're trying to tell us.

Re: Government's Anti-Energy Policies

in this instance, they are, since you're the only one who feels the need to police my use of the english language.

i highly recommend consulting a counselor of some sort about your need for control.

lol. and i'm not wrong. last time i checked, this country was free (as opposed to how you and yours would have it be) and i can CHOOSE to capitalize whatever i want.

pls don't be hurt cuz i won't blindly follow your lead. it's ok. the counselor will help you sort thru it.

Re: Drill here, Drill now, save at the pump

Please be aware of the target market. Prudhoe Bay oil predominantly reaches the Asian market, not the contiguous (lower 48) U.S. states.