Re: 4 day work-week

I see some issues with your workday. If you work five 8.5 hour days, your lunch break should only be a half hour, not 1 hour. By law, total "company time" must be 40 hours/week (or 80 per pay period), regardless of how it's broken up (4 days or 5 days).

Re: 4 day work-week

Who gets an hour for lunch? If you work 8.5 hours each day, you're only entitled to 30 mins for lunch. If you take 60, you're cheating the agency/command.

Re: 4 day work-week

I'm not sure about your math, but in my agency 1/2 hour for lunch means 1/2 hour for lunch unless you take leave or build more time into your schedule.

Re: 4 day work-week

if you are on a compressed schedule, (4 -10 hr days) and one of your normal workdays falls on a holiday, you should be getting the whole 10 hrs off as it is your normally scheduled workday. OPM regs. If you have to take the day off it would cosy you 10 hrs of leave

Re: 4 day work-week

Uh, you're supposed to be working 40 hours a week. If you get a 1/2 hour unpaid lunch break that is what you're supposed to be taking, not an hour., whether it's on an 8-hour or 10-hour day. You might not want to highlight that extra 1/2 hour for lunch that you apparently are being permitted to take.

Re: 4 day work-week

I once worked at a command where you were required to take a 1-hour (unpaid) lunch. Not all commands are on the 1/2 hour lunch.

Re: 4 day work-week

No one is cheating here. The policy actually is 1/2 hour lunch and two 1/4 hour breaks = 1 hour per day. Some have approval to use 1 hour for lunch with no breaks. Still is 1 hour per day.

Re: 4 day work-week

There is no law or government-wide regulation requiring a lunch break or rest period [OSHA may mention these in some jobs]. An Agency may establish such through regulation or coleective bargaining, however.

OPM rules jump in and limit the taking of lunch breaks [if there are any] to no more than one hour under traditional work schedules. Under alternate work schedules, there are no such OPM limits.

Returning to the original post, it seems to me that an agency going to 4/10s would {in theory} get 30 minutes more work per week out of an employee because of the 8-15 minute breaks under 4/10 versus 10-15 minute breaks under a traditional 5/8 schedule.

Re: 4 day work-week

IT Specialist, SSA

Hope no one finds out about the scheme you all are working at the SSA because it is regulatory that breaks, lunch, do not mix.

You all are illegal.

At least the Interior Department got some ancillary sex out of their scheming.

Re: 4 day work-week

I personally have a life after work. If I had to work 10 hours days, I would never get to participate in anything or I would have to come in so early that I would have to go to bed when I got home!

Re: Better for public

What a great idea your co workers don't return phone calls so you have to make a visit. Wonder if they would do their job it would reduce the necessity for you and everyone else to make an appointment and go there.
Until a PFP is initiated for every Federal Employee 4 day work weeks compressed schedules and telework should be off the table.

Re: Work Week

Great idea. I've thought about how nice it would be to work four 8-hour days. I've worked the 10-hour days and it is hard to do. I usually ended up sleeping most of the day that I had off.

And, just think of the money the government would save if every employee worked less hours. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford to lose 16 hours of pay. I just wish someone would offer it to me.

Re: hours

Seems to me an attorney would know the proper time to use "effects" and the proper time to use "affects".