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3.9% Average Pay Raise for Feds in 2009 in Temporary Spending Bill

GS Pay Cap

Supervisor
EPA
Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 AM

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A lot of good the increase will do for higher graded people in most high-cost areas! Unless this bill lifts the maximum pay limit of $149,000 for GS employees, those hitting that limit will see little or nothing.

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everyman
dod
Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:11 AM
Sure wish I had the problem of hitting that $149,000 cieling!! After 35 years of service I come NOWHERE near that amount.

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Analyst
State Dept in Washington DC
Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:24 AM
You are going to feel some heat for this comment. Although true.

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Computer Specialist
Forest Service
Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:54 AM
poor ole EPA supervisor your work probably is consistant with your ungreatfullness... you were just forced into that area at gun point.

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Engineer
USACE
Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:38 PM
This is free country, if you think you are under paid, hit the road!! I do not want anybody working for the Feds who could be making more money in the private sector. The private work sector force needs the smartest people available, and pays them well. Thanks for your contribution to the fed Government, thanks for forgoing the substantial pay increases you deserve. God Bless and good luck.

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QAS
DCMA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:23 AM
TO:Supervisor EPA

What a pompous Azz you are! For those of us who are considered "the Rest of the Nation" 3.9% sounds good, we would like more to bring us up to the level of you elite folks but don't expect it in today's world.

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fed
fed govt
Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:40 AM
Why attack her/him b/c they've done well for themselves...don’t we all aspire to this level one day? Maybe instead of berating EPA Sup...people who've been with the gov't for 30+ years and are GS-6 should be asking for some pearls of wisdom to pass on to their kids/grandkids about how to excel as a fed employee!

I’ve been with the gov’t just a few months shy of two years and I’m a GS-11…EPA Sup, any general principles you can pass along on how we can all one day have this “problem” :O)

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Supreme Mongo
Bureau of Mongo
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:29 AM
I just wish you were an NSPS employee so you could really enjoy pay for performance!

Re: GS Pay Cap

Federal Worker
Interior
Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:37 PM
$149,000 is the 2008 Executive Schedule Level IV annual rate of compensation. General Schedule employees Basic Pay plus Locality is limited by 5 USC 5304 to this rate.

The Executive Schedule pay scale has seen increases every year since 2000.

Here are some other federal employees paid EX IV:
Assistant Secretaries of Agriculture
Assistant Secretaries of Commerce
Assistant Secretaries of Defense
Assistant Secretaries of the Air Force
Assistant Secretaries of the Army
Assistant Secretaries of the Navy
Assistant Secretaries of Health and Human Services
Assistant Secretaries of the Interior
Assistant Attorneys General
Assistant Secretaries of Labor

And last but not least:
Assistant Administrators EPA

EPA Supervisor could aspire to the Deputy Administrator EPA position (EX-III $158,000), or Administrator EPA (EX-II $172,200). If that won't ease the pain, EPA Sup could be a Cabinet Secretary (EX-I $191,300).

pay raise

biologist
us forest service
Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:35 AM

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I am very happy, and grateful, that we might receive a 3.9% raise in January. It would almost, but not quite, make up for the additional $40/month that I will be paying for health insurance. Woo hoo.

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Diversity Manager
DOL
Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:20 PM
It would be better for all around if CS could perform simple math calculations when they post. Otherwise the general public will start thinking that we don't even have GED's

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analyst
government
Tue Oct 7, 2008 1:25 PM
You really hit the mark! I just laughed out loud at the truthfulness of this comment.....

Don't Count Your Chickens

Retired
DoC
Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:33 PM

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With the recent collapse of the financial sector and the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of taxpayers that will loose their jobs as a result, I wouldn't count on any federal raise. You will be thankful if you still have a job.

Remember when Clinton canceled the federal pay raise? Oh, I forgot - the Democrats are federal worker's friends! Maybe that just didn't happen and I dreamed it.

Forget about the stock market as a barometer of the economy. The market is not the economy. The complete loony tunes in our congress, who are the cause of this mess, have insured, one way or the other, that the Great Depression II will be upon us within the next 6 months.

I'm just glad I'm retired and not starting out right now. It could be a very long haul back up. Now, back to tending to my TSP!

Re: Don't Count Your Chickens

NWA
NCA
Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:41 PM
1. "Retired", everyone who has a job can be thankful they have the job; that doesn't mean you don't expect to be adequately compensated.
2. While Clinton may have cancelled the increase on occasion, every President in the FEPCA era has low-balled the recommended increase one time or another; you can thank the "loony tunes in Congress" for typically restoring to the full amount, contrary to the President's stated desire.
3. You can be thankful you'll still be receiving your annuity. Your smug, condescending attitude toward those of us who are still working is not appreciated. Have fun tending your TSP "garden". I'm satisfied knowing that you won't live forever.
4. Kansas Girl, bureaucrats are themselves taxpayers.

Re: Don't Count Your Chickens

Analyst
DoD
Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:01 PM
What year did Clinton cancel the pay raise?
I've got a spreadsheet of a GS-11/3 back to 1990 for the Seattle area and it looks like every year there was a raise.

1990 31,883 3.60%
1991 33,190 4.10%
1992 34,585 4.20%
1993 35,865 3.70%
1994 37,271 3.92%
1995 38,717 3.88%
1996 39,716 2.58%
1997 40,699 2.48%
1998 41,915 2.99%
1999 43,465 3.70%
2000 45,635 4.99%
2001 47,403 3.87%
2002 49,695 4.84%
2003 51,852 4.34%
2004 54,196 4.52%
2005 56,232 3.76%
2006 58,103 3.33%
2007 59,416 2.26%
2008 61,501 3.51%

Re: Don't Count Your Chickens

Electronics Engineer
FCC
Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:35 AM
Ronald Reagan canceled the pay raise, not Clinton. The largest increase ever was given by Jimmy Carter at the end of his term.

Re: Don't Count Your Chickens

Analyst
DOD
Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:01 AM
Remember when Clinton left us in the black??? Seems like the spend, spend philosophy of the Republicans for the last 8 years has caused us to go so deeply in the red that we will never recover. So do not blame the current mess and whining about a very small or no cost of living increase on Clinton.
Oh by the way, it wasn't Clinton that cancelled the pay raise, it was Ronald Regan...

Bureaucrats' not fearful.

KansasGirl
ME
Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:42 PM

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Another example of why taxpayers have turned against bureaucrats.

The F Funds

Test Control Officer
Air Force
Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:00 PM

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You mentioned in your article, "the I fund is down almost 30% for the year; the C fund is down more than 23% and the S fund is down almost 19%."

What about the F Fund???

Robbie Sheehy
382 TRS/TRR
Sheppard AFB TX

Re: The F Funds

editor
FedSmith.com
Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:36 PM
You can see the daily and yearly rate of return for all of the funds on the top section of the FedSmith.com home page. (The F fund is up 2.08% for the year as of 9/30/08.)

3.9% is Pretty Good

Fed Worker
DOD
Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:00 AM

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3.9% is better than nothing, Thank you taxpayers. I appreciate this. I know some of you won't see that much this year, and I know some of you are looking for work. I work hard for you everyday. I am thinking about you in the decisions I make.

Pay raise

federal worker bee
BLM
Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:46 AM

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EAP sup, sorry that you are being"cheeted" I feel that myself, as an fed. gov employee, I make a very decent salary. But guess what, in my grade/location, as a rest of us, we don't even get the 3.9% . We will be lucky if it is 2.4%, It does not cover the health care increase, which is same rate for you or me, regardless of location. Tighten your bell, disconnect you cable, scale down your eating out.....Times are harder, stop whinning.

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