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Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Project Manager
Army Corps of Engineers
Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:46 AM

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Unbelievable. I would have never imagined that a man with such obvious contempt for the county he would seek to lead would get even but a fringe of support. To top everything off, his name just happens to be exactly like our two greatest enemies: Barack Hussein Obama (Saddam Hussein-Osama bin Laden). You could not make this up in fiction. I guess the electorate that has given us Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi seem intent on dragging us down further with Obama.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Lucky Lady
OPM
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:18 AM
Obama did not choose his name & does not deserve to be compared to these two any more than a man with the first name "Adolph" deserves to be compared to Hitler. He also has shown more love of this country & a willingness to contribute to its overall betterment than all the phony flag-wavers on the right who are spouting venom and hate. When Bush was elected & re-elected, certain folks on the left said they would leave America; wouldn't it be great if an Obama victory persuaded some of these right-wingers to take their bigoted attitudes elsewhere? Afghanistan might be nice.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Deouty Director
NSA DOD
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:52 AM
It's dis-heartening to see that Racism and Hatred still runs through the vains of white america. It's unfortunate that due to the ignorance of the masses, on Nov 4th, it's the color lines that will get the vote. Stop the madness. Get smart on the issues and facts. Then let's have an intelligent conversation. Vote for the best candidate that will bring us out of this abyss.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

manager
USDA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:20 AM
"Racism and Hatred still runs through the vains (sic) of white america" while 95% or so of black Americans are all voting for the black candidate. I wonder if the person posting the comment has the ability to any irony in his comment or perhaps the "racism and hatred" he sees lurking in others despite the apparently willingness of "white America" to vote for a black candidate are running through his own "vains" (to use that person's spelling).

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Project Manager
Army Corps of Engineers
Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:47 PM
What is racist about pointing out that the guys name is unusually similar to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden? Nothing! It is a ridiculous claim. Applying a bit of common sense to your argument might help rather than crying wolf over some perceived slight.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Lucky Lady
OPM
Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:42 PM
"What is racist...?" What does his, or anyone's name, have to do with who he is? More than racist, the idea is stupid and there's nothing common-sense about it. Unless you're hoping to stir up more irrational fears about him among the impressionable readers of this site.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Happy
Anyway
Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:09 PM
What is racist about it is that it was even said; yet, racists are not cognizant of these facts since they are so full of their self-imposed importance in pointing out something like this.

It is also insulting to many people.

Of course, racists find that difficult to deal with as well since they have no sense of place.

Its akin to reminding everyone that:

a JOHN is a guy that patronizes streetwalkers,

GEORGE is a guy that lived in a jungle and crashed into trees all the time,

or that SARAH is the first name on a loaf of bread.

A racist is basically an individual that has yet to actually find a place in the world of men, women, and children that they can claim and be proud of and figure they can crack wise with quips like this as a sign of their intelligence, when in fact they have merely raised the Flag of Stupidty over their head once again.

A racist is someone that needs education, but the brain is too small to hold the infomation.

Signed, a White Guy

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Agent
IRS
Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:00 PM
Come on! There are other people with the name Hussein, in fact many, King Hussein of Jordan, who is friendly to the US comes to mind. To characterize someone with the name Hussein as another Saadam is ridiculous.

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Federal Worker
Federal Agency
Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:15 PM
"What is racist about pointing out that the guys name is unusually similar to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden? Nothing! It is a ridiculous claim. Applying a bit of common sense to your argument might help rather than crying wolf over some perceived slight. "

I don't think it's racist. I think that pointing out names such as what you did above is totally irrevelant. If his name were "John Smith" and he looked exactly the same and held the same views, would that be OK with you? Or is this the same stuff put out by extremists who can't discuss issues, so they put out tired rumors that Obama is a Muslim (which he is not) in order to scare people?

Re: Obama Leads Among Readers for First Time

Worker
DoD
Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:12 AM
Project Manager, names have nothing to do with the issue.

For those liberals complaining, do not get self-rightous. Many people on the liberal side have done the exact same things (for example, Bush/Hitler), including democratic members of congress and hollywood celebrities, and I bet you didn't speak up and denounce it then.

Fascism and McCain/Palin

Civilian Pay Tech
GSA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:49 AM

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Since one of your nutcase right-wing, reactionary commentators had a weird off-the-wall remark about Obama let me chime in about the GOP.
The beliefs of fascists in 1930's Germany have many parallels to the customary platforms of the GOP. With a little push, we could go right over. Lets look at Big Lies to get us into wars: Hitler's Lie about Poland and Bush's Lies about Iraq. Lets look at secret police and torture: Gestapo tactics and the Patriot Act and "water-boarding." Lets look at attitudes toward minorities: Nazi concentration camps for homosexuals and gypsies and GOP zero compassion for gay rights or support for affirmative action.
If this all sounds a little far-fetched? Yes, but lets us remember both groups--Nazi and GOP, were on the far Right, conservative and reactionary. So let us cool the nonsensical rhetoric in comparing Obama to Fidel Castro. Two can play at that game and whoever does has a thin disguise for his racism.

Re: Fascism and McCain/Palin

Federal Employee
FAA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:54 PM
You Go, guy/girl! Great observation, well said!!!

Re: Fascism and McCain/Palin

Worker
DoD
Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:18 AM
Again, another person cannot rsist the urge to "stick his two cents" of hatred in.

You could easily have stated the stupidity of name calling without going on and on about the GOP and Baush, but that was the actual intention behind the whole posting, right?

Choice of candidates

Education Program Specialist
US Department of Education
Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:52 AM

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I have wrestled with the major party choices for presidential candidates since it was determined who would compete for the slot and I find both choices wanting. McCain has some serious deficits and Obama is a socialist with communist leanings. Karl Marx was the author of "redistribution of the wealth" theory and I don't think I want that to be the goal of a leader of a capitolist nation. The current economic woes of the country started with deregulation under the Carter administration and have progressively gotten worse. In 1995 the Clinton administration put tremendous pressure on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase the percentage of risky mortgages to 50% but no one seems to be interested in these facts. Obviously the Congress is ultimately responsible for oversight and during the last four years which party has been the majority? I have great fears over the left getting absolute power if Obama is elected. What is that saying about absolute power? Oh yes, it corrupts absolutely.

Re: Choice of candidates

usda
worker
Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:48 PM
did you have any great fears when the GOP were the party in power for both the congress and the Administration? Look what the conserevatives did to us. A lot of us had a big fear for that and it has come true, with their admitted corruption by being the party in power. I can only hope that if we are going to bankrupt this country that we do it with the people, not against the people

An Obama Presidency?

Adjudication Officer
DHS
Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:58 AM

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In my considered opinion, and I am sure a lot of Obama supporters will not agree, an Obama Presidency will bring extreme JOY to the Marxists/Leninists/Stalinists/ Maoists/Socialists and every other follower of the Left's lunatic fringe in this Nation. Eugene V. Debs would love it. To the critics of Sarah Palin who claim she is not fit to be Vice-President, please look in your own backyard at Joseph Biden...he too is equally unfit! To me, the election of Obama would be tantamount to the election of a creation of "Frankenstein" to the Presidency.

Re: An Obama Presidency?

ATCS
FAA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:57 PM
Ajudication officer,
Ask McCain, how we declare victory in Iraq, and how many more kids have to be killed to prove that Iraq will never be safe, how much more in blood and treasury, I bet you get the blank skeletor look, or some rambling bullet statement. He also made the comment 3 weeks ago that our economy is sound, shows all that experience doesn't it? How is it socialist to want healthcare for everyone, but not socialist to bail out wall street? Oh by the way until 2 years ago I was a republican

Re: An Obama Presidency?

Happy
Anyway
Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:19 PM
The problem with a person like McCain, or Palin, with their hand poised ON THE BUTTON, is that once you finally decide to push some things you can't take them back.

McCain antics over just the past several weeks bring to recall the actions of a squirrel in the middle of the street as two cars bear down on him and he darts and dodges, with no idea where to turn... going totally wacko.

Well, we don't need that.

And while everyone is cracking about socialism.

Remember, there is the opposite, where the elitist rich will have no part of such UPPITY people wanting more for their family.

Oh, BTW, if you recall, Mr. McCain used that term not to many sunsets ago. Hmmmmm, wonder which house or car he was in when he said it.

Re: An Obama Presidency?

Adjudication Officer
DHS
Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:47 AM
Just as I thought, the Left's lunatic fringe is alive and well as they line up to chastize me for my thoughts!

Election / Congress

Mgmt Assistant
IRS
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:04 AM

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I can't understand why we keep hiring people to represent us who seem to hate America. Why in the world would Congress put us in the place where we can't drill for oil or build refineries or anything that will help us be energy independent. Instead, Congress has forced us to rely on governments that hate us.

As far as McCain and Obama go, I'm for McCain -- not because I agree with all his choices, but at least I strongly believe he is coming from a place of integrity and really does have our country's best interest.

In these last weeks of the election, I notice Obama is sounding like a moderate -- he is not. Anyone who listened to him during the primaries should be worried -- he has socialist views -- his judgment doesn't seem that great to me -- why in the world would you stay in a church for 20 years when the pastor spews such hatred toward America (and others)?

Re: Election / Congress

Analyst
DOD
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:53 AM
You're right. Bush showed us the ramifications of putting party first and country second or even third (after the far-right). He allowed a CIA operative to be "outed" the consequences of which are Secret. He's damaged the integrity of Justice. The cost of the war isn't even a line on the Budget. Does anyone remember one of the crimes the Soviets committed was snatching people off the street, sending them to Siberia, and never telling them the crime they committed? That's one of the arguments I remember about the need for the Cold War. These are only a few of the sins committed against America during the last eight years.

Faith

Safety and Health
Interior
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:04 AM

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I am 57 years old and have never been polled. Looking back through history some truly great presidents were viewed in the polls as underdogs. I truly believe that there are enough folks out there that when they get into the booth will choose the man who has been a dedicated American and served his country so well for so long, McCain. He does not have a silver tongue or the ability to hypnotize with hollow promises for things he can not do. He is not about ear marks. Did not put on a multimillion dollar stage show to accept his nomination. Had the respect to congratulate and not try to upstage his opponent. He recognizes that making lofty promises he can not fulfill might get him elected but, values his honor more than getting elected. He understands that no one is denied health care and that the cost of universal health care is unbearable. He didn't get to be a millionaire by volunteering (?). Hasn't taught folks how to scam getting registered to vote....

Re: Faith

usda
worker
Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:54 PM
from what I have learned, McCain has never held a "civilian" job. How did he become a millionaire? marriage? corruption?????? I have met Mr. McCain and would have voted for him, but he turned into what I call an "attack chihuahua" against bush and his policies in previous elections and then he votes with him 90% of the time. I think a level headed person with compassion for the middle class that built this country is what is needed for the next round of "USA Politics"!

scary decisions

HR Assistant
DOI
Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:08 AM

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For someone who will unite the country, Obaba's quickly dividing it. If his policies do by some miracle get approved by congress, we'll pay more. Yes, Palin has little experience for the VP position, but Obama has even less for the Presidential position. Biden can't decide which side of the table he's on - same as his running mate. Ask Obama a question, he skirts it. McCain at least answers it - maybe not to anyone's liking but he answers it.
Then there's the wives of the presidential candidates. Who would you rather have greeting foreign policy makers - or even your family members? The one who scowls at everyone unless they're praising her husband (Obama) or the one who, even if she makes gaffs, seems pleased her husband is running? Mrs. Obama needs to get better at pretending she's not only proud of our country but of her husband's decision to run for office.

Re: scary decisions

Financial Analyst
DLA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM
Excuse me? Did you say Obama is dividing the country? While few can top the master of division, George W. Bush, McCain is showing that he learned at the feet of the master.

Re: scary decisions

Lucky Lady
OPM
Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:36 AM
Let's talk about the wives. Obama has had only one, & there's no hint of adultery or mistreatment. McCain dropped his first wife after she suffered a terrible injury & was left incapacitated. He subsequently married a wealthy woman young enough to be his daughter & has ridden her inherited money throughout his political career. I think the Obamas will make a fine First Couple & Michelle will make an unforgettable First Lady. And that's not pretending, HR Assistant.

Re: scary decisions

Budget Analyst
DLA
Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:39 AM
While I don't agree with your conclusions, at least Biden is available to take questions. Why is Palin kept under wraps? All of the men are facing the heat in the kitchen.
If she can't take it now, when will she?

Re: scary decisions

Worker
DoD
Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:23 AM
Lucky Lady, why was it wrong for McCain to leave his first wife? Were you there and do you know the whole story? Are you holding the millions of men and women who divorced to the same standard as McCain?

Re: scary decisions

Lucky Lady
OPM
Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:38 AM
DoD Worker, it was wrong to leave his first wife because he had taken a marriage vow to stick with her "for better or for worse, in sickness & in health". I wasn't there & I don't think you were either. No, this has nothing to do with anyone else who may have divorced; every marriage is unique, as is every divorce. I think the circumstances of the divorce - as much as anyone of us can tell - speak volumes about Sen McCain's character or lack thereof. If you think he should be admired for leaving his first wife, please tell us why.

Re: scary decisions

Worker
DoD
Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:27 PM
Not saying he should be admired. Only stating that you are holding him to a different standard. The way you wrote the comment, you must feel that every other divorced person lacks character.

"For better or worse" is misleading. I guess if your husband beat you you would stay because of the "for better or worse" statement?

Re: scary decisions

Lucky Lady
OPM
Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:11 AM
Are you equating spousal abuse to a person being disabled & incapacitated thru no fault of their own? If an accident similar to this happened to a man, would his wife be justified in abandoning him & moving on? And I don't understand your comment about a "different standard". The standard is no different for John McCain or anyone else. Don't try to muddy the waters by bringing every other divorced person into this; again, every situation is different. Many people are divorced thru no wish of their own, so, no, I'm not condemning everyone who is divorced.

Re: scary decisions

Worker
DoD
Fri Oct 3, 2008 2:48 PM
Lucky Lady, can't face the truth of the words you wrote? You are too funny, and a hypocrit to boot. You just cannot accept the fact that McCain left his first wife (for whatever reason - WE were not there) so you say he lacks character. In your words, that "speaks volumes" about the character of every other divorced person.

Re: scary decisions

Lucky Lady
OPM
Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:07 PM
My friend, you have a serious perception problem. I have no problem "accepting" that he left his first wife; that's a matter of public record. I think it was a bad thing to do & a man of real character wouldn't have done so. Were there extenuating circumstances? If so, let him come clean with the public; if he chooses not to, let him suffer the judgment, pro & con, of the public. My original point was to commend the Obamas, who have been unfairly maligned by many of the narrow-minded hypocrites (notice the "e" at the end of that word) who have given John & Cindy McCain a pass on their dubious history together. Are you sure you're not rationalizing some personal behavior of your own?
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