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Is The Presidential Election Close? Very Close According to Latest (and Last) Survey Before the Election

Next January

Former HR Specialist
Federal Agency
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:02 AM

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Whoever wins next week needs to remember this survey. For too long the political appointees of both parties have assumed that civil servants are one big monolith of nothing but democrats. The Schedule C's need to remember that people of all stripes have come to work in the civil service to provide the best government to all the citizens of this country. Republicans shouldn't assume that we will fight any action that they propose, and Democrats can't assume that we will support just any expansion of a government program they propose.

Re: Next January

Asset Mgr
GSA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:52 AM
No Offense - but, when and where have you experienced that any politician has done the will of ALL the people? The real part the folks like us play - is electing these people over and over again. Once entrenched - so many of them do as they see fit - they owe it the lobbyists.

Please explain why you think you or me or any of us can control a (if Obama wins) fillabuster proof regime?

Survey says! Wrong

Civilian Pay Tech
GSA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:12 AM

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Incorrect sampling is no doubt the problem with your survey but of course there is no way to account for that with a voluntary survey. Moreover, I've noticed through service in 4 federal agencies that Republicans are very well represented in government employee and indeed may comprise a plurality. I would be one too but, in truth, my Christian upbringing, Catholic school, taught me well that, basically, the GOP message is at odds with
the teachings of Jesus Christ, i.e., love thy neighbor" and "do unto others as you would have... etc" GOP philosophy is "devil take the hindmost."

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Asset Mgr
GSA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:26 AM
No offense is intended - I don't believe you are in a position, nor is the catholic church or anyone else in this world in a position to "judge" republicans or democrats or any person.

My upbringing was also Catholic and I was never taught that I could "judge" anyone's beliefs - regardless of their race, color or creed. That priviledge belongs to God alone!

Thank you.

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Vet
NAVY
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:41 AM
If the GOP message is at odds with the teachings of Jesus Christ, please explain how killing babies is not? Obama has and will continue to vote to kill babies under the guise of choice. The devil is a liar, he is the father of lies. He comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He comes disguised as an angel of light. As I always tell my congregation two things when reading the Scripture. Do not read just one verse, read before and after. Second, context, context, context. Single verses are usually taken out of context. I was raised a Catholic, went to Catholic school, but that did not make me a Christian. Only a submitted relationship with Jesus Christ will do that. Pray and listen to God before you vote. 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and forgive thier sin and heal their land. God Bless America

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Retired
Retired
Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:10 PM
Well, there we have it. "Standardized" church doctrine with each person speaking the word of God. Each choosing to force their view of religion on the other person. Did you ever wonder how long after taking communion the abortion clinic bombers plant their bombs? The next time you shake your head in disbelief as the "Allah Akbar" crowd imposes their religious views on innocent "infidels", just remember this thread.

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Retired
Dod
Sat Nov 1, 2008 11:06 AM
Why is it that he only time people on the left want religion in the public discourse is when they want to take your money in taxes and give it to someone else quoting Jesus in the process?

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Technical Editor
TACOM
Sat Nov 1, 2008 1:25 PM
The Abortion Clinic Bombing argument brought up for the 2000th time?

Difference is that extremists whether religious or not, don't represent their relgion or anyone but themselves.

Christians have spoke out against abortion clinic bombings. The whole purpose of being against abortion is to be FOR the sanctity of Human Life and that is a well known belief that obviously doesn't dove tail with abortion clinic bombings or any bombings.

There's no moral equivalency with Christianity and Islamic extremists when there are overwhelmingly a larger amount of extremist islamics with C.A.I.R. organization refusing to acknowledge what a terrorist organization is (Hamas, Hezzbollah).

Plus there are countless public schools throughout the world telling their students that killing innocent people because they are JEWS is perfectly ok. I don't know any public Christian school in America telling students that bombing clincis is ok.

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Retired
Retired
Sat Nov 1, 2008 9:14 PM
Well “Technical Editor”, if you don’t want to hear about the abortion clinic bombers sitting in the pew next to you then you definitely don’t want to hear about the pedophile predators standing at the alter in front of you. Nonetheless, it is your support that spirits them out of town just a step ahead of the law lest they embarrass your particular brand of “the true religion”.

Re: Survey says! Wrong

Attorney
DoD
Mon Nov 3, 2008 9:41 AM
I don't see where you get the idea that Obama is somehow in favor of killing babies. Nobody likes abortion, including Obama. All Obama has done is go on record as saying he supports leaving alone Roe v. Wade that we've had for 40 years now. In other words, the mother is free to choose life if she is so inclined. If you were truly "conservative" you would be for keeping the government out of the decision, just like true conservatives are in favor of keeping the government's hands off our guns. The "pro-life" movement is also contrary to conservative opposition to welfare, since unwanted pregnancies that frequently end up with unloved, abused children on welfare. It seems that the Republicans care deeply about children from conception until birth.

Thank you Fed Smith

Asset Mgr
GSA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:18 AM

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Thank you Fed Smith for this open and honest report! I appreciate the time spent to provide an open forum for Feds to express their opinions and the results of your survey aren't tainted one way or the other! One question has plagued me throughout this campaigning season - here it is: "If Obama were applying for a Regular Federal Job - how could he pass the DHS Security investigation with all of his past or present associations?" How did he become a US Senator? How could he run for the Presidency with all that is secretive about his background and associations? I don't know who or what he is -- except a smooth talker.

Who am I voting for

Program Technician
Farm Service Agency
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:22 AM

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I am voting AGAINST Obama.

Re: Who am I voting for

Program Analyst
OPM
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:13 AM
That makes two of us...sad thing is, the polls seem to show that Americans are tired of the Republican Party and want "Change." What utter nonsense, every politician says that, and like Ron Paul said, it is just a word--it does not mean anything. Candidates never show, they just tell and Obama is VERY good at telling!

Re: Who am I voting for

Programmer
TSO
Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:29 PM
Program Analyst has a point, Obama can run his mouth all he wants but what's he ever DONE?

Re: Who am I voting for

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:15 PM
This election may very well come down to voting "Against" Obama and what he really stands for rather than voting "For" McCain. I don't know what has been going on in the last two weeks, but there have been a lot of Obama supporters throwing the guy under the bus. Biden with his tax cuts for $150,00o or less. Clinton saying he had to run to his advisers to include him when the financial crisis hit. Barney Frank stating that there are a lot of rich people to tax and we want to cut Defense by 25%. Today, Bill Richardson lowered "middle class" to $120,000. With Friends like these helping his election, I would lock them all in closet.

Presidential Election

Program Analyst
USAF
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:27 AM

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How is Obama good for this Country? He is going to tax the upper 5% to pay for the majority of America--Right!! Did you look at his plan to take our federal Retirement and place it in Social Security so we can draw "one" check--Not two with the "guarantee" we will receive 3% on our Money. It is also Very odvious that we have many "Sexist" in the Government--Reagan, Bush, Clinton were ALL Governors--so what is wrong with a Woman Governor--look at her aprpoval rating and record--No it is evident where many Men in Government stand. Shame on you!!

the future President...John McCain

Human Resource Assist.
IRS
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:36 AM

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I am so sick of voters who are constantly stating Mr. McCain is "old" and could die in office - don't they realize that anyone could die at anytime. When your time is up - it is up.

Re: the future President...John McCain

Unhigh on the Food Chain
VA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:00 AM
Not necessarily. If you stand in front of an on-coming train, you have essentially MADE your time be up, hence McPain in this election!

Re: the future President...John McCain

eng
nasa
Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:19 PM
If polls simply vote on emotions,we are heading for a disaster. Electing unqualified people simply because you are angry with the bush administration will drastically weaken this country. If you think 9/11 was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. It's important that the voter challenges the candidate who is best qualified for the job to be prepared-rather than unprepared where chaos follows-like happend on 9/11. I believe the Republican candidates are best qualified for this job.

John McCain/Sarah Palin

Retired Nurse
USPHS
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:39 AM

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Come on!!!! We want a WIN on Tuesday!!!! And, we are here to provide it!

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