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Is The Presidential Election Close? Very Close According to Latest (and Last) Survey Before the Election

Qualifications

Program Analyst
RD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:49 AM

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The thing that amazes me is all those that feel Obama is more qualified than Palin. First Palin is not running for Pesident, McCain is. At least she has had experience running a State Gov, that is more than you can say for Obama, he has never run any kind of gov office (yes he was a State Senator and a Senator from a State in which he voted present more times than yes or no, so he has never run a gov office) . Second, we work hard for our money, why should I sit back and let him "spread it around" to all those that don't want to work hard, if this is not socialism then I don't know what is. Less face it Socialism has never worked anywhere. As for Biden, who knows what will come out of his mouth to anger our enemies.

Re: Qualifications

Quality Assurance
USDA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:18 PM
First off, I am neither for Obama nor McCain, I will probably make up my mind on Tuesday.

But, to say that just because a person lacks "experiance" does not mean they would not make a good president.

Take James Buchanan, he was a state representative from 1814-1816, a U.S. representative from 1821 to 1831. He was the Ambassador to Russia from 1832 to 1834, a U.S. Senator from 1834 to 1845, turned down an appointment to the U.S. Surpreme Court and was Ambassador to Great Britian from 1853 to 1856. When he was elected president, his term was so bad that his own party began an investigation of immpeachment for treason. He is consistantly ranked as the worst or second worse (A. Jackson and he swap) president of all time.

Now we take this next fellow, served as a state representative from 1834 to 1842, he was not re-elected. And 18 years later he runs for and gets elected as president. Ranked the greatest president ever-A. Lincoln.

Experiance? That does not hold water.

Re: Qualifications

accountant, retired
DOE, Albuquerque
Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:48 PM
Palin went to many mediocre schools to get her degree and is an intellectual light weight, Obama graduated from harvard with honors and shows, intellectual and emotional intellegence. McCain acts like a spoiled rich kid who had everything given to him and finished near the bottom of his class. He only got in the Annapolis because his father and grand father were admirals. give me a break

Re: Qualifications

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:07 PM
I doesn't take great intelligence to get elected to office. It really only takes money and opportunity. You don't get measured by what your grades were in high school or college as an adult when it comes to political office. Al Gore's grades were terrible in college if you compare them to Bush and Kerry.

Re: Qualifications

admin asst
doe
Sat Nov 1, 2008 7:42 AM
"Al Gore's grades were terrible in college if you compare them to Bush and Kerry. "

Good point. Bush had higher grades than Kerry too.

Re: Qualifications

Worker
DoD
Mon Nov 3, 2008 7:47 AM
accountant, retired

Since you didn't graduate from Harvard or some other Ivy League school, you are "mediocre" and an "intellectual light weight?" That's the problem with the Democratic Party; elitist attitudes and systematic degradation while stating they know whats best for everyone.

Re: Qualifications

Attorney
DoD
Mon Nov 3, 2008 9:53 AM
Since you didn't graduate from Harvard or some other Ivy League school, you are "mediocre" and an "intellectual light weight?"
No, but it is not unreasonable to expect the V-P candidate to formulate coherent sentences, such as inability to identify ANY newspapers or magazines she ever reads, or claiming foreign policy experience based on proximity to Russia.

I also expect my V-P candidate to be able to realize that she is being scammed by the "President of France" after a 7-minute conversation in which the "President" drops references to how "hot" his wife is in bed, uses a fake name for the Prime Minister of Canada (while Palin pretends to know him), and makes references to a documentary on herself by Hustler magazine. And she STILL didn't get it. Duh!

Re: Qualifications

DOT
Engineer (small fry in a large pond)
Mon Nov 3, 2008 11:13 AM
The thing is, the current administration has actually embraced communism by buying shares in commercial banks. Communism is government ownership of private enterprise. So let's not raise the socialism flag.

Re: Qualifications

DOT
Engineer (small fry in a large pond)
Mon Nov 3, 2008 11:15 AM
I hate to tell you guys, but Bush also finished at the bottom of his class. He also had money and opportunity and was probably the only reason he went to Yale.

Presidential Election

NEPA Coordinator
Forest Service
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:01 AM

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Don't you realize that our current tax system already taxes the wealthy at a higher rate than the rest of us? Obama's plan only tweaks the system, it doesn't change the system. And there is nowhere in Obama's tax plan that proposes that ludicrous idea of abolishing 401(k)'s and replacing them with a mandatory 5% savings at 3% earnings. Those are ideas being thrown around by a handful of Democrats. It's NOT on the ballot or proposed by Obama. Get your facts straight before you vote.

Re: Presidential Election

ISS
DoN
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 AM
We worry that our kids are unduly influenced by marketing strategies to sell them images of sexy, skinny models or toys that promote the latest block-buster movie. As adults we seem to have forgotten that we are vulnerable to the same type of “promotional selling” tactics with our vote. Enough already! Vote from an intelligent, pragmatic, balanced, and logical perspective. Let’s say that we have had enough of spouting hate, hype, and innuendo as if it were fact. Read and do your own research, and think for yourselves. But please remember to vote.
I am voting for Obama and Biden because I personally believe that we need change and they uphold my values of equality and kindness to my fellow man. They are not “redistributing the wealth” they are letting me keep more of my hard earned money by paying less in taxes because I make less that $200,000 a year. Please open your eyes and see how you are being duped by slogans—don’t prove the old saying that “there’s a sucker born every minute.”

Re: Presidential Election

Civ
Navy
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:49 AM
If YOU are paying less taxes, SOMEONE has to more. Where do you think the revenue will come from? So, the rich get taxed more. America's foundation is built on the rich corporations. If the rich corporations are taxed more and their bottom line is less, guess who will feel the pinch? Is that so really hard to understand. My 3 yr old granddaughter gets it. If Mommy pays more at the grocery/clothing/etc., store, there's less to bring home. And that's if there's a job left after the companies lay off their "excess."

Re: Presidential Election

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:55 PM
ISS- Did you see the Bill Richardson lower the middle income rate to 120,000 today. Quote "What Obama wants to do is he is basically looking at $120,000 and under among those that are in the middle class, and there is a tax cut for those," Richardson said in the interview, according to a clip posted on YouTube. Keeps getting lower.

On Obama's leadership:

ER/LR Specialist
VA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:18 AM

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I question Obama's assertion that he is a post-partisan, aisle-crossing consensus builder. Looking at his track record, he has never once co-sponsored legislation with a Republican, nor, I understand, has he ever once "crossed the aisle" and voted against his party's line. McCain has done both, numerous times.

I worry that in an Obama administration, the conservative half of America will be completely shut out of the process and their concerns disregarded entirely.

Re: On Obama's leadership:

Analyst
Energy
Mon Nov 3, 2008 3:20 PM
Re: "being totally shut out" Shades of the GOP domination and the selling of the Congress that followed. I want a democrate president if for no other reason than to kick the blood sucking republicans out of office!! I believe that Obama has the ability to lead something sadly missing w/George. As for McCain, I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog.

Re: On Obama's leadership:

Manager
DOAA
Mon Nov 3, 2008 5:25 PM
Well Analyst, if we look past your name calling and personal insults it's obvious you're completely missing the point. It's a near certainty that the Democrats will have control of Congress and if we vote in Democrats into the executive branch too as you want us to we'll have one party dominating both.

In other words, we'll have the partisan domination of both that you abhor so vehemently.

Re: On Obama's leadership:

Project Manager
DoD
Thu Nov 6, 2008 11:17 AM
I have noted that alot of people have your concerns about Obama. That is really not your issue! It it were you should have had those same concerns about Bush and we would not be in this "S" that we are in now.

Re: On Obama's leadership:

Analyst
dod
Thu Nov 6, 2008 5:47 PM
Project Manager - If you mean the economy when you refer to "S", you're wrong in your inference that it was caused by Bush.

The mortgage meltdown was the catalyst for this current economic crisis. The root of this meltdown was government interference in the 90s that pressured financial institutions (fannie and freddie being the biggest players) to make mortgage loans to people who wouldn't qualify otherwise. Bush warned congress repeatedly during his term we had a crisis brewing. It was congress that failed to act on these warnings and therefore we are where we are now. Your ire should be towards those who failed to act despite being warned they needed to.

Voting is important

ISS
DoN
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:24 AM

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In reading the comments from federal employees in this survey and others, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that my fellow workers are quoting sound bites and campaign commercials, snippets from whisper campaigns, fear-based rumors spread through e-mail and flyers, rumors and comments that have been debunked by fact-checking organizations but still believed by vulnerable people whose fears have been stoked by flames of bias, hate, and meanness. Our political process has turned into a publicity and marketing campaign—built on surveys, polling, branding, promotion, and the selection of words to be sold to each demographic group.

It is amazing that we approach this political season as if we are buying a presidential product that we think we can’t live without. We are not buying a product for consumption, we are selecting the leader of our country who will interact with other world leaders and bring a sense of stability and hope to all Americans.

Re: Voting is important

Worker
Navy
Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:55 AM
Let me know the day Osama Bin Laden wants to waltze in to kiss the hand of Barack Obama. If you think Obama is all of sudden going to spread good cheer throughout the world and we all are going to "just get along" I will be forever beholden to you. America will always be an enemy, whomever is in office.

Mis-Information about Obama

Administrative Contracting Officer
DCMA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:26 AM

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Obama has to constantly fight off ignorant mud-slinging.

1) Obama doesn't want to take away your guns. If he did, he wouldn't have been endorsed by the American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA)

2) Obama did not vote for partial birth abortions. He vote 'Present' on a very bad bill before the legislature that would have turned doctors into felons. Please research the use of 'present' as a strategy.

3) As for Obama ignoring the troops, it's another lie. Please go to http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp to see for yourself.

If you continue to base your beliefs in mis-truths, then you will never make in informed decision.

Re: Mis-Information about Obama

Management Analyst
DOC
Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:01 AM
Very well stated and I agree completely! I am tired of hearing all the lies about Obama. Americans need to stop listening to the marketing strategies and pay attention to the facts. We know more about what Obama plans to do for our country than McCain. McCain wants to win the Presidential election because "he's been there, done that". We need a leader that brings a fresh perspective to the White House -- not someone who thinks they know everything. We've had enough arrogance over the past 8 years and our country has suffered because of it!

Re: Mis-Information about Obama

Cubicle-Confined Wage Slave
DCMA
Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:08 PM
The PR Campaign was sucessful. An endorsement by Ray Schoenke is bogus X 2. The ASHA has been proven beyond a doubt to be a "front " organization with no more than 300 members nationwide, a really slick website with some great nostalgic-looking fall scenes, and records of favoring "Sensible" gun controls (=Gradual Elemination from Society). ASHA was artificially created 2 years ago to provide the Brady Campaign and Jennifer Peter's group with a PR base to use in their PR and Media campaigns with a camo-clad group that "really" represents the "Voice of American Hunters". Apparently there is no paid members. I requested my name be removed after I learned the AHSA had contributed (heavily) to those 2 groups who would completely disarm US Citizens. No, Mr. Obama would not take any guns away. But I know without a doubt between J. Biden, C. Schumer, and N. Pelosi bills that do this would be signed by Obama and enforced. Reference J. Peters in Australia. Mass $$$$ as blunt object.

Re: Mis-Information about Obama

IT Specialist
DOD
Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:46 PM
I have to concur. ASHA is very much a gun ban group. Board members are all former members or associates of gun ban groups. ASHA was formed to provide cover to candidates that they actually support the 2nd Admendment when infact they don't.

Re: Mis-Information about Obama

Clerk
DOI
Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:56 PM
From what I've seen, ALL the candidates have had to fight off mud-slinging, either from one another or from pundits (and pundit-wannabes). I'm ready for someone to step up and discuss his/her own stance on the issues rather than bad-mouth opponents. This is why I'm still an undecided voter.

Survey

Labor Relations Specialist
Department of Labor
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:50 AM

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I don't think you can draw any conclusions from the latest survey or any of your previous surveys. The responses come from self-selected respondents. Perhaps, in the latest survey, McCain supporters were more motivated to respond. There is no way for you to tell.

bottom line

accountant, retired
DOE
Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:59 AM

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The bottom line is Obama is going to win. Self selecyed polls are not an accurate reflection of government workers opinion. Obama is winning all the blue states and Ohio,Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado. It is highly unlikley that McCain can win with less than 4 days to go.

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