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Change in Government: Barack Obama's Letters to AFGE President John Gage

Telework

A Nobody
DOL
Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:41 AM

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I sure hope the new Labor Secretary gets behind the telework idea. Embracing the advances in information technology and allowing folks to work remotely just makes sense.

Re: Telework

Diversity Manager
DOL
Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:15 PM
I totally agree. This could be a revenue neutral opportunity. The folks who get to do telecommuting would forgo their locality money. That way paying for the hardware software and internet would be paid for by those using the benefit

NSPS

Program Analyst
Headquarters, USMC
Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:55 AM

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Has the subject of NSPS in DoD been addressed by President Elect Obama? I have seen his comments regarding DHS, and was pleased to see they (DHS) abandoned NSPS. Most in DoD would be extremely happy to see this program, which is demoralizing even to the top performers, disappear with a return to the GS system.

Re: NSPS

PERSEC
Army
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:10 AM
I was surprised to see it wasnt brought up here, but yes he has, and he has said he will either do away with it or drastically change it and said he doesnt feel "a system designed to hold employee wages down" is fair.

Re: NSPS

Worker
DoD
Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:10 PM
"........ doesnt feel "a system designed to hold employee wages down" is fair. "

That's funny coming from a lawyer.

Re: NSPS

Diversity Manager
DOL
Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:39 PM
but he did say that CS need to be held accountable and wages are an important part. think you'll see PFP gov't wide and that's a good thing

Re: NSPS

Fed Worker & Union Guy
DOD
Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:36 PM
Worker DoD & Diversity Manager/DOL:
You two must have been honor graduates, of the Donald Rumsfeld Academy of Management Science.

Re: NSPS

UNION ACTIVIST
AFGE
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:09 AM
Back in September, AFGE's National President John Gage recieved a letter from Senator Obama telling him that NSPS would be greatly changed if not repealed altogether.

Days later, DOD annouced that they would not move any DOD employees into NSPS that were represented by unions, and that they intend to stop spiraling employees into NSPS. Basically capping the number of DOD employees at 205,000.

DOD continues finalizing its regulations, WHOA, DOD has some 205,000 federal employees in a personnel system without final regulations!

This just goes to show the distain that DOD has had for unions and the employees they represent over the last eight years. What DOD wants, are workers who are an extension of the military. Not employees who seek to feed thier families.

Re: NSPS

Worker
DoD
Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:30 AM
Fed Worker & Union Guy DOD,
No, didn't go to the school you mentioned, but I did graduate school, unlike you.

UNION ACTIVIST AFGE,
You say "What DOD wants, are workers who are an extension of the military. Not employees who seek to feed thier families." That is an asinine statement. If you want to convince someone of something, don't make statements that are stupid and blatantly untrue; it ruins any credibility you may have.

Re: NSPS

UNION ACTIVIST
AFGE
Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:08 PM
Worker DOD - I am not aware of any employee working WITHOUT consideration for earning a living (i.e "feeding thier family")

The mentality of DOD management is that mission is first. That's great as long as the checks keep coming.

If you are working just for the "mission", I suggest that you retire or resign and let someone that needs to feed a family work. You could then volunteer in some capacity or work for a contractor who is raping the taxpayer (I'm sure they would be willing to let you work for free or a greatly reduced wage).

I am not dismissing the DOD employee's contribution or committment, but it is dishonest to suggest that the only reason they work for DOD is to accomplish the mission. Any good employee wants to support what thier employer hopes to accomplish or achieve.

They also expect to get paid for it.

The point of the original string was poised around the question if NSPS is an issue of importance to the unions.

Re: NSPS

Fed Peasant
DOD
Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:44 PM
Worker DoD:
Donald Rumsfeld, with NSPS, wanted to make federal NSPS workers "deployable assets". That means just like the military!! The union activist did indeed know what was being talked about. It's workers like you that made mistakes like NSPS more likely to arrive & more difficult to correct. You are the ones who don't comprehend & are gullible to the point of being self destructive!!....

Re: NSPS

Diversity Manager
DOL
Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:22 PM
DOD is like any other entity that has to perform, its not a jobcore or hire the incompetent. The taxpayers pay top dollar for the people working for the government and should expect top notched work.
The "union" doesn't pay you salary last time I looked they are green and say US Government. If you want to work for a "Union" than go see if they have any openings. Otherwise bite the bullet work or go home

Re: NSPS

Supervisor
DoD
Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:15 PM
I didn't vote for Obama, but if he kills NSPS I will support him until hell freezes over.

Re: NSPS

Technician
DOD
Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:53 PM
As a Recently returned DOD Deployee i can honestly say that the entire Civil Service program needs to be looked at. We have people that obtain a YC-1 Promotins with supervisor responsibilities that makes less than a GS-7 because of Agency Caps . This is saving them money and makling us look like we are too stupid to realize this. Our current DOD agencies deploy thousands of Civil Servants in Harms way with little compensation more than working overtime. Contractor's that make tons of Money hardly have to pay taxes on their huge incomes while we get no tax break at all.. SES positions get all of the pool money first and what is lift over is generously given to the bosses buddies.

At least kiss me when your trying to screw me !!!! I may not like it but at least i know it copming !!!

Democrat vs Republican

Engineer
DoD
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:14 AM

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A lot of time has been spent criticizing Unions for their support of Democrats over Republicans. If half of what Obama has written about comes true, that is better than supporting a candidate or party that does not support agendas and goals of working men and women of this country.

Re: Democrat vs Republican

Fed Peasant
DOD
Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:53 PM
Your statement is profoundly true!! The puzzle is why some of the partisan right wingers, at FedSmith, can't see truth, justice, & value. Maybe they enjoy noise, caos, & distractions, as they tune into their favorite radio shows, for further chest pounding inspiration.

Re: Democrat vs Republican

manager
doj
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:24 PM
Fed Peasant, it goes both ways. The far left and the far right are both out of touch with most of us and spew ridiculous stuff. There have been more than enough posts from both camps on this website.

The articles themselves are fairly centrist, but the far left will call them right wing since they consider anything that's not in their far left camp right wing.

Re: Democrat vs Republican

Diversity Manager
DOL
Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:13 PM
That's the free market unlike the socialism and communist rhetoric exposed on NPR and PBS which i have to pay for

Obama,s stand on protecting retireesand CSRS soci

Retired CSRS Employee
USDA
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:20 AM

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On one of the last days prior to elections, Obama had the 1/2 hour TV show where he talked with the retired man in Ohio who had been promised his retirment and did not get it as per the agreement. Obama was going to correct this type problems.
I retired as CSRS employee who had worked about 20 plus years when FERS was (PUSHED IN ). We as Govt. employees never knew what was happening. I as many stayed CSRS. Then Regan going out of office, signed the windfall act that basically took away the Social security that we were promised when hired. I had close to 40 1/4s payed in prior to retiring and more after retirment from Govt. service for 32 years and 6 years as a Sargent airpoliceman in Washington Air National Guard. When I had retired, I continued to pay into the SS system until I signed up to receive SS payments. Then I find out that I only get just over $200.00 month, not the approx $900 I should. When my wife died, I was not allowed to receive my wife's ss like other spouses.

Re: Obama,s stand on protecting retireesand CSRS soci

CR
SSA
Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:48 PM
I would go back and recheck your figures on your SSA retirement. The fact that you only get 200.00 dollars out of a possible 900.00 dollars does not sound rt to me. If you were to get 900 dollars based on your wages and taxes paid into ssa the you would be eligible for about half that amount you should have gotten 375 to 450.

Don't forget that WEP was put into place to make SS fair. You are getting what you would have gotten from SS if you only worked under SS, precentage wise. It can get complicated but trust me when I say WEP and GPO only closed a loop hole in our system that was unfair to Social security only employees, it did not unfairly disadvantage you. YOu should visit our web site www.ssa.gov and re read the publication No. 05-10045 and No. 05-10007. Also you could contact a local branch for another explination.

Here we go again...

Civil Servant
VA
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:22 AM

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I agree that the "wait and see" approach is best. The so-called "partnerships" of the Clinton-era were not partnerships in the true sense of the word, but rather were wholesale sell-outs to organized labor. Agency leaders who incorporated these lofty ideals into their labor agreements, to include the commitment to negotiate over (b)(1) topics, foolishly believed that organized labor would drop their rhetoric and truly work on behalf of their clientele in concert with the agency. Partners envisioned by Clinton are the exception, not the norm. The reality is that agency leaders gave lip-service to the political appointees to seek personal gains, while site union leadership couldn't poor "stuff" from a boot if the instructions were on the heel. John Sturdivant is with the Lord and Bobby Harnage is gone. Partnerships are dead and gone too. Change you can believe in starts with holding managers accountable and losing the unions. Use non-union world class businesses to model reform!

Death To NSPS

supply technician
dla
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:28 AM

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Goodbye and good riddance to NSPS and its faithfull partners Cronyism,Nepotism and Favoritism.
All you people who went to all the right parties and events,drank and hunted with all the right managers and just generally sucked up are going to be highly diappointed when NSPS is trashed.
A system where pay and bonuses are veiled in secrecy is doomed in this administration.

Re: Death To NSPS

Diversity Manager
DOL
Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:42 PM
Hello to a new PYP plan Its not going away. The old CS is dead HOOORAY!!!!

Re: Death To NSPS

Immigration Officer
USCIS
Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:19 AM
"Goodbye and good riddance to NSPS and its faithfull partners Cronyism,Nepotism and Favoritism."

I will beleive that when I see it. It sickens me to no end the amount of nepotism, favoritism, and cronyism I see. And then I can understand those who went "postal" when I hear these same people who benefited from this immoral actions bitching about veterans preference.

The definition of a veteran is a person who at one time wrote a check payable to the people of the United States of America for an amount up to and including their life. For those of you who were too good, too smart, or even just plain to fat and lazy, you get off your duff and put your ass on the line!
Not only is it just compensation for a person who has served their country to be granted preference, it is also THE LAW! Quit hiring your kids, brothers, sisters, etc. and OBEY THE LAW!

Change in Government

Federal Worker
USDA
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:28 AM

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I will believe it when I see it. Personally, I am so sick of Politian’s and the lies they spew out of their mouth. They say whatever that group of people wants to hear and what do you think he would write to the Union Pres? That he hates Unions and plans to destroy all of them??? Of course not....he is going to write what the Union wants to hear. Also, instead of trying to be so diverse in his picking people in his administration, how about giving the job to the BEST qualified, and not because he has to have a Black, Hispanic, Male, Female, or whoever, just to make sure that he has a diverse cabinet. I personally don’t care if the person is green…if she/he is the BEST qualified then offer them the job! Well good luck with our new President Elect Obama, cuz God knows we are going to need it.

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