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Uncle Sam to Smoking Employees: Quit, Leave or Take the Bus

CONSIDERATE SMOKERS

ENGINEER
DOE
Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:05 AM

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I don't smoke, never have, and am allergic to the smoke. I work in the Federal Building in Richland, WA where smoking has been banned for quite some time. I would like to thank the smokers here for being so courteous & thoughtful of others: they smoke outside under a covered area, but are careful to stay well away from the doors into the building. As for the rest of you, you have my sympathy since obviously you are not lucky enough to be associated with courteous, thoughtful smokers. As to the time away from their desk, well that's a sad reflection on their manager's ability to manage staff if indeed they are taking extra time not allowed to the non-smokers.

2nd Hand Smoke?

Supervisor
DoD
Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:44 AM

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"Reports show" that 2nd hand smoke is as dangerous and contains the same chemicals as "1st" hand smoke. You know anyone addicted to 2nd hand smoke??? I don't ... They couldn't get smokers to stop by telling them it would kill them, make them ugly, or make them sterile, so they enlisted the help of the 2nd hand smokers by telling them they were all going to die! Long ago, no one was offended or allergic to tabacco smoke. Now we all are??? I remember the lady walking past me coughing because I had a cigarette in my mouth (she said she was allergic). To bad she didn't notice that I had not lit it yet! Why not make smoking illegal? That worked well for prohibition ... Where will the government get the tax revenue lost from the sale of cigarettes? Smokers ... lets all not buy any tabacco product for one month ... and watch those that spend our tax dollars squirm!

Re: 2nd Hand Smoke?

Diversity Manager
DOL
Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:18 PM
I'm sure folks over play the allergy issue, heck just look at all the fed disability claims filed every year they outstrip the military and these are clerk jobs. If the private sector had as many OSHA would be tripled.
Smoking is a choice and its yours to make. The ones i love are the women buying creams for their face to look young when smoking them ages them 12/20 years.
I can just look at someone and tell they are a smoker so why waste the money

Considerate Smokers

Supervisor
MEDCOM
Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:13 PM

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ENGINEER - You are correct some smokers are very considerate and smoke away from others. However, when they come into the building most smell, still have smoke on their clothing and there, at times, is very little difference with the amount of smoke some people have to inhale. Knowing that secondhand smoke is worse, does anyone know if smoke caught on clothing is considered as dangerous as secondhand smoke in the air?? I am all for preserving individual rights, but in this case it goes beyond that.

Smoker Vs. Drinker

Employee
DHS
Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:04 PM

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Lets put smoking into context.......

We do not allow people to consume a drink or two before we get to work. a drink or two mid morning, a drink or two at lunch, than a drink ior two in the afternoon. Why do we make it so easy for mkers to achieve this, when we know the consequences are far worst than than what happens with a drinker.

Have you seen the goverment taking the brewers to court for billions of dollars?

An addiction is an addiction, and the employer has the obligation to support them in quitting, by having the health clinics come on site and issue patches, gum, medication and even hypntherapy to assist employees in quitting if they choose to do that or reduce their consumption of tobacco products.

They say the goverment is a model employeer, show us this is mre than pen to paper. Help your employees become a model employee.

Re: Smoker Vs. Drinker

Diversity Manager
DOL
Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:20 PM
Tell you what i would be happy to allow them to smoke if you could get CS to put in their 40 hours a week. It takes 2, to be a model employer the employer and employee. Too bad the employees have a long way to go

Time for Feds to Quit Smoking!

Contract Administrator
VA
Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:12 PM

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Smoking should be totally banned in the Federal workplace. Why should we non-smokers be exposed to secondhand smoke and the risk of cancer? It is our rate to work in a cancer-free environment! President Obama must ban smoking now.

Re: Time for Feds to Quit Smoking!

Operations Supervisor
DOD-USAF
Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:34 PM
---Disgusting habits have no business in a public work place.
---The US Government is under no obligation to provide smokers all these amenities and considerations at the expense of all the other federal employees that don't smoke.
---It is obserd that the tax payers have to pay for buildings to house people that are performing disgusting habits and makeing decsions to intentionally inflect harm to themselves.
---Supervisors (like myself) should be paying very special attention to ensure smokers are not sneaking out during their tour of duty to puff the cancer sticks.

To Paraphrase President Jackson

Meteorologist
NOAA
Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:51 PM

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They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it!

Re: To Paraphrase President Jackson

CIC
USAF DOD
Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:17 AM
Aw give it a rest, Smoking in the work place has been banned ages ago, people smoke outside away from doors and no one is subject to secondhand smoke...unless they are sucking face with someone out in the smoke-pit.

Bottomline smoking is legal and highly taxed. No one is being harmed except the smoker him/herself and the self righteous people who think smokers should just suddenly quit because they feel they should.

People concerned about excessive smoke breaks should look around at all the time wasted on coffee or the extra long bathroom breaks some folks have.

Re: To Paraphrase President Jackson

HR Specialist
USDA Forest Service
Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:27 AM
I beg to differ with you, CIC, USAF DOD - I don't "suck face" with smokers, but yet am subjected to their nasty habit every morning when I walk into the building. They stand right next to the entrance, so I get to walk through a cloud of nasty smoke every morning. What really gets me is when they attempt to cover up the stench with cologne/perfume, which only magnifies the disgusting smell. Cig smoke and cologne/perfume don't mix. Disgusting............................

It figures

Civ
DOD
Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:51 AM

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Why do we vote for these a@#10(es! Are there not more important things to worry about! This is how they spend their time!

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