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Uncle Sam to Smoking Employees: Quit, Leave or Take the Bus

smoking rights

Retired from
DHS
Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:55 AM

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I had a long, confusing comment and I deleted it. I'm a never smoker, spouse went from cigs to pipe to non. Smoking is outside the front and back doors, but I sure wish there were some way to handle this to please all. C'mon all you thinkers and compromisers, get busy!

ban on smoking

Wheelchair Technician
Veterans Administration Medical Center
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:02 AM

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Again, the problem in this Country of ours is that we want to give rights to everyone for everything...even if it kills us. There is no sense of right or wrong anymore. Everyone is afraid of offending someone.

smoking

acct tech
dfas
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:10 AM

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when will the propaganda about the alleged dangers of smoking end or be refuted? if the quoted 'official" stats about smoking-releated deaths were in fact true (where are the names of victims), 400,000 out of 55 million smokers mean less than 1/2 of one percent--hardly a "proven fact" but merely number-manipulating. (if I get hit by a car with a cigarette in my mouth, is that smoking=related death?)

Re: smoking

Sr. Staff
Energy
Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:46 PM
I bet that there is a lawyer out there somewhere who could easily prove it was "suicide", ha!

Re: smoking

Clerk
DOI
Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:52 PM
At what percentage point would you consider smoker deaths problematic? How many thousands, millions, or billions of casualties must there be before they are no longer meaningless?

Look Around Yourself

Retired
BIA
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:16 AM

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Re. productivity, how many hours are wasted in a day in giggle-fests in cubicles? Surfing for vacation sites or stock quotes? Playing solitaire? How many long lunch breaks are taken? How often must some employees visit the restroom for who-knows-what? Late? So what - I'll still leave at my regular time. Gossip session? Let me in!!!

I suspect the smoke breaks I used to take (while walking around the building alone) took my allotted break time and helped me avoid the issues I mentioned above so I could concentrate on my work.

Yeah, I was known as a loner and even anti-social but my work was best done solo and without refreshers in who was on the brown list that week....

I've quit smoking since I retired (after two packs a day over about 50 years) and I'll grant you that I'm probably healthier and definitely wealthier (I can just about pay for a vacation in Europe every year with what I save) but I have nothing against smokers who do it responsibly.

Not Just Smoking

retired accountant
VAMC
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:36 AM

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I quit smoking this past June after 42 years. I like most former smokers tried many times to quit. Congratulations to all of us who made it. Smokers are not criminals - they have found a habit that too easily becomes addictive. Our employee health office made little effort to help smokers. But that's not the only health risk in a hospital setting - the Canteen is loaded with salt and grease. You can get COPD and clog your arteries all in one stop.

Way back when I was in the military, cigarettes were $2.25 a carton. There was a limit on how many cartons you could buy at one time. I believe it was ten. If the government encouraged smoking then, it will have to make a larger effort to rectify the problem now.

Nicotine addiction

Field Examiner
VBA
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:41 AM

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The idea that the government should hire a bus to take employees out for a smoke break seems like a waste of taxpayer dollars. The employees should have to pay for it, or better yet, they should use nicotine gum patches or other sources of the drug to satisfy cravings at work. The time lost for smoke breaks is totally unfair to the rest of the work force left at their desks working while addicted co-workers satisfy their cravings.

Stinky Perfume

Supervisor
MEDCOM
Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:50 AM

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We focus on smokers and how their habit offends us. I was a smoker when smoking was "fashionable." At that time I was not aware of how much I offended others. I know employees that are actually allergic to smoke. It causes them to have episodes of inability to speak or breath - this does not include those w/asthma or copd. The other offenders not included are those women who insist on taking a bath in their perfumes. I work in public service and cannot tell you how many times I have had migraines from these inconsiderate ladies. It causes me to take my prescribed meds which in turn cause me to become extremely sleepy. I cannot go home because driving w/a migraine is near to impossible. Can signs be put up asking these women not to wear their stinky perfume when visiting public buildings - Federal or not???? I encounter these people in movies, grocery stores, etc.

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