Re: Another Defeat for Merit Principles

State:
"The original principle of establishing a highly competent workforce based on merit and open competition has taken yet another step back by this ill-conceived court ruling."

Take another look at the article. In this case, the disabled veteran was in the top category! The selecting official had to go down to the 4th category to select 2 people over the veteran! In this case, no damage was done to Merit Promotions, the veteran was hired and the case for keeping the Federal Career Intern Program was made stronger because it can be shown that veterans are being hired via this mechanism.

Me? A greater than 30 percent disabled veteran with a graduate degree who had to use the FCIP to get a developmental job with HUD.

Re: Another Defeat for Merit Principles

FCI HUD, all 30% disabled vets float to the top of the top category (in both rule of 3 and category rating) as long as they meet minimum qualifications. So this person being in the top category does not actually mean he was more qualified than the 2 who were hired.

Re: Reality

Okay, now lets all get real. First off, I am a Vet. Pref Elig. So the whiners can stop. Secondly,and MOST importantly, let develop a pref eligible code that distinguishes between a vet who attains a disability rating from injuries received in the 'actual' performance of military duties/combat versus those who attained a disabililty rating from playing softball, football or some other non-military act. I can't tell you how many of these so-called disabled vets have a bum knee or arm from screwing off while in the service as opposed to sustaining an actual injury while in combat or performing military duties. Please be assured these comments are not meant to take away any benefit for those getting injured while in combat or performing military duties, but don't whine about getting screwed over as a vet because you hurt yourself when falling off a barstool in Singapore.

Re: Reality

How about using the same standard for CS disability payments... those not hurt on the job need not apply

Re: Reality

ELR Spec
DoD

Does losing part of a foot to an IED count? You may want to think twice before posting arrogant self-serving posts. I think you are injecting your self-pity into the facts.

Re: Disabled vets 85% white males?

AHHHHH another unqualified CS posting. COMBAT Arms is 100% male you know the guys who fire guns and mortars, not clerks like yourself sitting at a desk

Re: Disabled vets 85% white males?

Diversity Manager,

Combat Arms would not be the only way that a military member is injured, thus getting a disability rating. I just listened to a radio broadcast about a FEMALE soldier who was injured by a car bomb while deployed.

Or do you mean to imply that only males in the military can receive disability rating?

Re: Disabled vets 85% white males?

So called DIVERSITY MANAGER, you bring shame to your profession with an attitude like yours. There are many female soldiers and marines who have been very seriously injured by IEDs and who are derserving of the purple hearts and disability ratings they received.
Additionally, even the "clerks" have to go through rigorous PT and could wreck a back, knee, etc to the point where they are also deserving of our country's thanks.
You sound like the lunks from armored cav who wear the T-shirts that say "If you ain't Cav you aint S__t!" and you should be above that in your job.
Is this just a fake name you made up???

Re: Disabled vets 85% white males?

Div Mgr: Finally you have made a mistake..."It is clerks and jerks". Use your imagination as to "jerk".

Re: VEOA

Maybe he got tired of the offices ignoring Veteran's Preference. There must be a problem if he has applied three times and each time the Veteran Preference Rules were ignored.

Re: VEOA

Maybe, he was just trying to get them to do right and follow the law. Like I said, previously, I am a 30% disable vet with a B.A, I was passed over for a position with DOL and I was rated highly qualified. The person who received the job was a non-vet. We both performed the same type of work. The funny thing is I constantly cleaned up that persons mess (work) in our office. Some people can just BS there way through interviews and when the time comes the agency will see that they did not select the right person.

Re: VEOA

Budget Analyst,

Did you go MSPB site and read this guys complaint?

Employee FED,

If you are a permenent federal employee, Veterans Pref.
does not apply

Re: VEOA

Preference applies if you are going to another agency, because if it did not you would not get the extra points.

Re: Some Want to Carry Vets' Preference Too Far

Mr. Ramsey lost and rightly so.