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Returning Veterans Seeking Employment: When the Trickle Turns Into a Flood

Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates

Federal Career Intern
HUD
Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:36 PM

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What is left unsaid is that many agencies post multiple annoucements and end up with several certificates and then hire from the certificate the person they wanted to hire in the first place. This is rampant in the case of internal candidates!

As these veterans come home and some will seek federal employment, they need to know that they have rights and that DOL Vets will ask all the right questions. It may not help because agencies are good at throwing up smoke and mirrors but if enough veterans press the issue they will find a way through the smoke screen.

Re: Avoiding the Veteran with multiple certificates

Lucky Lady
OPM
Fri Jan 9, 2009 3:31 PM
Agreed, agencies often consider candidates from several sources and often "hire the person they wanted to hire in the first place." There are understandable reasons for both. Sometimes it's best to look outside the organization for new blood; other times, a good candidate is readily apparent within the organization. A selecting official will usually have an ideal of who would make a good choice internally. This is not a matter of "smoke and mirrors" or an attempt to fool anybody. Each vacancy has to be approached on its own merits. And sometimes, the selected candidate, internal or external, is a veteran.

Returning Military personnel into the job force

Tax Examiner
IRS
Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM

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Well, after my nephew spent 4 years in Afghanistan he was returned to the US to complete the balance of his "contract" with the US Army as an Army Reservist. Mind you this kid is 22 years old, is ready to fulfill his duty states side and take advantage of the college or trade school of his choice, paid for by the US Government as promised when he enlisted for an 8 year contract while a senior in high school. Apparently this kid is being deployed again for 15 months somewhere in the USA, lives with his grandparents because he cannot bear any type of loud or prolonged noise. It
s nice and quiet at grandmom's and grandpop's home. Stands with his back against the wall at all the family gatherings and must leave for a walk if the laughter gets too loud. Oh yeah, and school? He was told HE is to put up the $10,000 for his HVAC training and wait for the money from the gov't. He was told "there has been a change about the money and the schooling". Nice, huh? He got a job on his own.

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Quality Assurance Specialist
DCMA
Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:12 PM

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Tax Examiner...this won't be the first or last blow to your nephew delivered by a government that talks the talk but has a problem with walking the walk. May he find it within himself to succeed regardless of the obstacles placed in his way.

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Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:38 AM

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What about the DVAAP?

Fed Worker/disabled veteran
DON SE
Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:06 AM

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Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans of any wartime should get more bennefits and special treatment than any other special interest group that are not Veterans. The fact is that we as Veterans have put our lives on the line for this country, so how come we do not get the special treatment that other groups are getting today? After all Veterans are made-up of all groups of people. There is a program for Diabled Veterans that when I did some research on and asked why nobody in the Federal Government pays any attention to it the answer I got from a Federal Official is "That It Has No Teeth" (uses words like "shall", instead of words like "should") as a Law. This Law and Program is that of the "Disabled Veterans Affirmative Action Program (DVAAP)". There is a lot of paper work that is put out on this DVAAP Program, but I have yet to see it's true implimentation for which it is truely carried out as was intended, and this is in the Department of Defense (DOD) for civil servents. Please follow-up on this DVAAP Program and do more research for the interest of all Veterans and especially Disabled Veterans..

10 pt vets can also file late applications

Engineer
USFS
Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:45 AM

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Another 10 pt disabled vet benefit.

You can apply for a job even after the advertisement is closed. As long as they haven't officially hired someone, they must consider your late application.

Good luck trying to use this one though. Not a benefit that appears to be well understood. But you can find it in writing under the OPM site.

VETERANS VS COLLEGE GRADS

QAS
DLA
Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:56 PM

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Unfortunately this agency thinks that a College degree is far more important than any experience in the U.S. Military. For many years people worked here and performed their jobs with no college degrees. These days almost every position requires a degree and (probably) most returning Veterans are lacking these mandatory credentials. In a Logistics agency such as this, the best folks here are the Veterans; those who have actually worked on the weapons systems for which we buy parts. They have been in supply and have ordered and provisioned these parts, they have flown in the helicopters, rode in the tanks, fixed the aircraft and most importantly they KNOW what the customer needs.
It's a shame that the jobs they deserve will be given to a bunch of immature 22 year olds with backpacks and flip flops. I say give the Vets the jobs, and they can work on their college degrees while they are working to support the custromers that they used to be.

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