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MSPB Study Strongly Recommends Employee Engagement

30 Years and Counting

Tomato Grower
Oaklandon Road
Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 AM

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How does an Agency that is represented by a union accomplish this engagement with unit employees without facing untold numbers of ULP charges?

It was my understanding that Congress in 1978 declared that this engagement can best be accomplished by the union and agencies bargaining over it. Congress stated that such bargaining served the public interest.

Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis of such bargaining? I believe that this month marks the 30th anniversary of the implementation of the intent of Congress. Perhaps MSPB can do a study looking back over 30 years of the Title VII of the Civil Service Reform Act. If you want a good chuckle, pick up a copy of the legislative history and read what some of the honorable Senators and Congressmen said and wrote back in 1978.

Back to the greenhouse where nobody is bailing out my starter soil or conducting hearings on whether or not my greenhouse is really "green".

Re: 30 Years and Counting

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FedSmith
Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:37 AM
I believe that the engagement you're talking about was intended to be limited to working conditions. Confusing work and working conditions over the last thirty years is what has led to the incredible amount of litigation in Federal labor relations. I worked for Democrats in the Clinton Administration who were somewhat chagrined whenever the union wanted to tell them how to manage the mission. They thought the Congress and the President had entrusted them to do that. Most of the union representatives I dealt with thought they knew better how to run the place and said so to whoever would listen. In the end, though, those same union reps didn't want either the responsibility or accountability that came with doing so.

Re: 30 Years and Counting

Diversity Manager
DOL
Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:04 AM
Every Union Rep I have ever met has been respsonsible and accountable

Re: 30 Years and Counting

HR Specialist
DoD
Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:25 AM
Of course, the labor relations statute has limits to its scope; but, any manager trying to involve bargaining unit employees in the way that MSPB is encouraging is walking into a mine field of litigation.

Re: 30 Years and Counting

Former Union Rep.-Currently a Supervisor
USFS
Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:25 PM
This is addressed to Author-Fed Smith--I find it interesting that you would say the Clinton dems would have issue with the union when it was Clinton who signed the EO that allowed partnership and more involvement by the union!! I was a very active union rep at that time and the very issue was to partner up on mgmt rights as defined in the statute. You threw all union reps into one pot with your comment and we all know that is very biased. I did the most conscientious job I could as a union rep. but now I supervise 1 emp. so I am out of the bargaining unit and I guarantee you that mgmt doesn't care what I think. They made that clear as soon as they removed me from the bu!

Duh!

Retired
Retired
Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:30 AM

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This is surprising why?

Only 1/3 engaged

Engineer
DoD
Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:43 AM

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Only one third feel they are engaged? That 1/3 is probably the Supervisors who responded to the survey. This is the usual ration of supers to bargaining unit. Without reading the entire MSPB Report it looks like the rest of the employees surveyed 66% are not engaged.

Study on Employees engagement othe DoD Agencies

Project Manage
DoD
Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:20 PM

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It would be interesting to know the results of the study, if one was done on DLA and NIMA Agencies

Wasteful

Little Guy
DoD
Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:05 PM

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"a significant relationship between the level of employee engagement in an agency and various agency outcomes such as greater retention, reduced sick leave use, and better programmatic results. The Board staff also discovered that first line supervisors play a critical role in engaging employees."

Another example of wasted funds and manpower. Any person who has been in the workforce could have made the same statement. This ranks up there with studying the amount of methane produced by cow flatulance.....and we have people starving and freezing to death. I'm glad the priorities for this country are in the peoples best interest.

Emplyee engagement

Worker
Government
Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:29 AM

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Please read the story dated January 16, 2009 about Mrs. Chamber's firing. You will understand that employee engagement is phony if you do not agree with management.

Re: Emplyee engagement

Prof
Small College
Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:29 AM
Management is always right, that is the way it should be, someone has to be held accountable.
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