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Sex and the VA Therapist

Expensive Lesson...

Supervisor
DOI
Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:47 AM

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Don't play where you get paid!

Yes, but what is the definition of sex?

Diversity Manager
ICE
Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:04 PM

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Likely owns a Clinton dictionary. What defines an "affair" or "sex" or "indiscretion" or "crime?"

Re: Yes, but what is the definition of sex?

Diversity Manager
DOL
Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:48 PM
That's a good one "DM ice" you crack me up

Re: Yes, but what is the definition of sex?

TeleHealth
VA
Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:14 PM
Oh No, Diversity Manager is talking to himself!!! Unfortunately, these encounters are common at the VA where I work. Always knock before you enter!

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VPS
DOL
Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:18 AM

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If they were doing the slap and tickle on the job, then I guess I see the appropriateness of this action. However, a relationship between two consenting adults should be between them. This is about the exercise geek, not her psychoanalyst. If Clinton taught us nothing else, it was to mind our own business. Besides, this kind of stuff only reminds the rest of us how little we're getting.....

Bullet

Maintenance Mech
DOD
Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:05 AM

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They have an affair for 5 yrs with no sex? OK, so they had sex, as long as it's not at work or they are not in each others chain of command who cares? What pisses me off is how she can pull the affair card and use it with no reprisal for her part. She's an adult right? She had a part in it, but now that it's not fun anymore , she ruins this guys career with no reprisal to her. Have your cake & eat it too?

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Unhigh on the Food Chain
VA
Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:31 AM
Wrong answer. When she decided to end the relationship, he should have been adult enough to move on, but he didn't, which is in many cases. This is what led to removal and should have been. It's always easy until the shoe is on the other foot.

Re: Bullet

Maintenance Mech
DOD
Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:09 AM
Learn to read unhigh "The agency eventually removed Abrams for having a prohibited relationship with his patient. " NOT for harrassing her, which was wrong but not grounds for removal

SEX IN THE VA

Patient Business Assistant
VA
Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:25 PM

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I concur TeleHealth. This crap goes on constantly in my VA. It truly is the epitome of it's not what you know but....etc. Especially if your trying to get on w/ the govt. Good thing is, if the relationship goes well, an employee can get a sweetie hired on here, & don't let the person be a manager or high up. Their sweetie will end up miraculously having all these qualifications, and being promoted over people w/ years of experience & seniority, very quickly (within 1 yr 2mos). But let it end badly. Any paperwork the person has /needs will mysteriously disappear, even at the top level, where they're supposed to make the least mistakes (that's why they're paid the big buck I'm told). Worse if the relationship ends really bad, our VA will create a document & deem the patient "VIOLENT". Then they'll put a "prone to violence alert" in the system, & have security follow them around like a criminal. Meanwhile the pt. has no idea why they are being followed & gets mad, & reacts badly.

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