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Workplace Bullying, Part Two

Sexually harrassment/harrassment/bullying

Group secretary
IRS-Insolvency Unit
Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:30 PM

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suggesting that the person being bullied/harassed to find another job is totally unacceptable that could very well be the end that the harasser is looking for. This type of behavior is unacceptable in any work place if this behavior were to be in the private sector the harasseroffender would be immediately fired. This is why we all as Federal employee's sign ethics/UNAX conduct forms every year if they are in violation of that pact termination is in order.

Respectfully

Re: Sexually harrassment/harrassment/bullying

Frustrated Fed
United States Marshals Service
Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:38 AM
I wish it were that simple. United States Marshals Service is by far the worst agency I have encountered with this "I can do whatever I want" attitude. Bullying is second nature to these managers who were mostly just deputies with political clout. They know nothing about management. They do underhanded and fraudulent things and then threaten anyone who speaks up about it. I know. I went through 2 yrs of hell because I spoke up and have now been terminated. I understand the legal costs are exhorbitant and I cannot afford to fight this. They should not have been able to take my job after 29 years of federal service but they knew I only had 2 yrs left and they wanted revenge. There is no justice in working for the Dept of Justice or U.S. Marshals Service. I have found there is corruption at the top.

SUPERVISOR BULLY

Pion
BOP
Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:46 PM

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So I went to the bully supervisor, and that's how I got into this mess to begin with.
I went to their supervisor, I went so far up the chain of command that the only other people I have left to write is the agency director and the president.
They tried writing me up for a disciplinary, they went to HR and were coched by them, and it turned into a performance issue. I don't know what agency you guys work for, but in this one everyone is "in bed" with each other.
I am not the first person to be bullied here, I am just the first person to speak out, and PUT IT IN WRITTING!
Since I worked here I've seen 1 person resign from the agency after over 15 years of service, and 4 people transfer out. I learned one thing, even if you are right and have proof or witnesses, be careful to bring up any allegations. Especially not in this agency! The administration along with the attorneys of this agency will gang up on you, and try to discredit you every time. you are 1 person they r many!

Re: SUPERVISOR BULLY

Assistant Director
Rather not say
Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:33 PM
I couldn't agree with you more. I am in a similar situation but a much smaller company (which seems to be worse). There is only one person (the problem) between me and the owner of the company and I have repeatedly ask him to deal with the behavior and nothing ever comes from it. We are to have a meeting tomorrow (which will be bad, been there done that). Sometimes looking for a better job is the only remaining option. As much as this can suck, when one door closes another opens and I have to look at it this way. I have found a new job that pays more and seems to be a different structure. What bothers me I am having trouble turning in my notice. WHY?

Re: SUPERVISOR BULLY

Frustrated Fed
United States Marshals Service
Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:48 AM
Your situation sounds much like mine at the US Marshals Service. Once you address any type of fraudulent activity with Mgmt. your days are numbered. After 29 years of fed service, I had this happen to me. I had outstanding performance ratings and 2 awards in the year they started in on me. First suspended me for coming in late due to traffic accident. Next I was given a poor performance rating. Each day brought a write up. These threats of termination finally affected me physically and mentally. I went on medical leave and was terminated while I was out. When I tried to return to work, I was told they would start another disciplinary action if they had to. These men did not even act human. They had all the power and used it while answering to no one. I contacted dozens of attorneys who told me it is hard to fight DOJ because they have a full time staff in Legal Counsel. I would need a lot of money. I was forced to back off and let them get by with this.

Bullying

Retired Fed employee
South west regional matiance center
Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:13 PM

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How would it have help to talk to someone to help cope with slaps in the back of the head and hit in the stomach as hard as you can????? These things did not happen to me, however I witness this and many other things.

Masters of Bullying

Chapter President NTEU OK
IRS
Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:04 PM

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IRS managers are rewarded for bullying. We have filed grievance after grievance locally, but the bullies eventually prevail and become more emboldened.

And EAP? Oh, puh-leez! If you can get an appointment, the best you can expect is "there, there, now remember how hard it is to find a job...blah, blah..."

Until senior executives realize what they are allowing to happen and do something to correct the bad behavior, our agency will continue to have a revolving door with new hires who don't have enough time vested to make it worth staying.

Those of us who are KMA or close to it are just hanging on until we get the chance to escape.

Bullying, Harassment, Victimisation, HR Failure

Sam
Individual
Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:09 AM

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Unfortunately it is all a political game, and who has more power and support the victim or the bully. Then you add HR incompetance and failure to act along with management cover ups and 'make this go away' attitude, to create a disaster situation.
The victim never has a chance. What must happen is PROFILE of the Bully andf PROFILE of the Victim, to clearly lable the type of person who offends, and demonstrate that THIS TYPE OF PSYCHOPATH in the workplace is not wanted and must be take out, companies must understand it is their BEST WORKERS and MOST ADMIRED COMPETANT workers who are bullied, as they 100% show up the bully and the harasser. Throw in the fact that they are so admired and follow the company policies to the T that they are even more a target, often isolated making them easy prey. People find them a threat.
Companies must acknowledge and promote the best workers and performance manage and get rid of the bullies, as psychopaths are NOT fixable.

record coversations

Industrial Hygienist
USAF
Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:01 AM

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What do you think of secretly tape recording conversations with the bullying supervisor?

Re: record coversations

Frustrated Fed
United States Marshals Service
Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:56 AM
I did tape record the threats made to me but no one, except my physician, wanted to hear them. Marshals Service headquarters was not interested. I secretly think they admire the bullying. I was told by attorneys that the court system doesn't give much credence to this type of thing. They just want to hear both sides and work out some compromise settlement. No one wants to deal with the bully or threatening bosses. I'm really surprised there is not more violence in the work place. I have found the biggest violators of ethics code to be in the top offices at U.S. Marshals Service, both at the district level and headquarters. Who is policing the police??

Workkplace Bullying

Business Development Specialist
SBA
Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:51 AM

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I had a supervisor who screamed, demeaned and belittled me for a very small insignificant error (inhouse and of no consequence). I couldn't even defend myself. She is a true bully. She does this to others. When I spoke of it to upper management, nothing was done. So I believe it goes on all time and people just let it go because noone in the Federal Government wants to make "waves".

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