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Conscious ignorance Does Not Protect IRS Employe
HUD
Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:57 AM
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The IRS is doing a fine job of dealing with such giant tax-cheats! How about applying the same standards/codes of conduct/ethics to Obama's cabinet?!?! Oh, that would appear to be too partisan. Get a grip!! I am so sick and tired of hearing about ethics training, codes of conduct, etc, that are being applied to the worker-bees but not to the upper echelons!!!
Re: Conscious ignorance Does Not Protect IRS Employe
ssa
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:11 AM
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DOD
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:25 AM
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The one I work for
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:33 AM
All the people who have been fired or penalized for cheating/defaulting/whatever on their taxes should form a coup and demand that either their crimes be forgiven or the political appointees be fired for THEIR very same crimes!
Re: Conscious ignorance Does Not Protect IRS Employe
Federal government
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:57 AM
I assume that all of you were against Obama based on your comments. Therefore, your comments are political and nothing else.
I would like to know whether other agencies hold their employees to the same standard as the IRS does. Can I have an unbiased answer.
Please note that cheating is probably the same as fraud, which is deliberatly deceiving the federal government out of tax money. Was the civil fraud penalty imposed on these cabinet members? Was negligence imposed? Unless you know the answers to those questions, you are just being a political crybaby when you make your accusations.
I believe these politicians allowed some returns, where the statute of limitations was expired, to be examined. They paid the additionalo tax, which they did not have to do. This is not dishonesty.
Re: Conscious ignorance Does Not Protect IRS Employe
DOD
Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:01 PM
Presidential Appointees should be aware that they will undergo scrutiny. They shouldn't wait until the last minute to fix it--"they got caught" and are playing catch up. While they may pay all penalties and interest and technically can not be compared to the employee that was fired, the perception remains, and you know, perception is reality.
Looking at this another way, what would they have done if they weren't "caught"? NOTHING.
So these Presidential Appointees failed to be law abiding citizens and should not hold a position of public trust for THOSE reasons, not because they complied after they were "caught" in the vetting process.
Re: Conscious ignorance Does Not Protect IRS Employe
USDA
Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:35 AM
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noaa
Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:49 PM
work for the IRS.
Treasury tax cheat
Corps of Engineers
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:13 AM
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It is interesting that those of us identified as 'federal employees' are held to a different standard than those in executive cabinet positions, their staffs, or anyone in the legislative branch. What are we to make of the fact that the Treasury is now run by a tax cheat?
I guess this is what we can expect from a President that could not even obtain even the most basic of security clearances if he were to apply for a federal job.
Re: Treasury tax cheat
EEO
Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:34 PM
I think that everyone should be allowed a "pass" in minor criminal violations. If we held everyone accountable for every single criminal act, who would run the country?
Think about it, folks. We NEED these people running our government or we would get our PAY CHECKS!!
So who do the rules really aplly to?
DOT
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:15 AM
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I agree with HUD Project Manager. If the IRS is so serious about their employees, why are the Mesiah's cabinet members not held to the same standard? I'm sorry, I forgot that the tax cheat in charge of the bloody organization made a "common oversight" in his previous tax returns. Maybe that is what the IRS employee in this case should have claimed!
Section 1203
IRS
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:16 AM
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Section 1203 requires IRS employees be held to a higher standard. Everyone in IRS gets that drilled in their head on a regular basis. This lady's defense does not pass the "straight face" test. If the facts in the article are correct, she should have been fired and was.
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IRS
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:51 AM
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IRS
Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:15 AM
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DoD
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:21 AM
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The one I work for
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:47 AM
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IRS
Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:46 AM
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Fed Agency
Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:02 AM
One positive note: President Obama has proven himself a great tax collector - $500,000 in past due taxes, interest, and penalties from his own appointees (and those like Mr. Daschle who dropped out after the vigorous "vetting" process that let him through the gates).
Re: Section 1203
Treasury
Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:43 AM
B.O.'s cabinet does not have to obey the law?
DOD
Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:48 AM
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Incredible. Another example of double standards and uneven application of the rules, if not the law. She got what she deserved... NOW TELL ME, Mr. B.O., why is that the little guys get 20 years in a crowded prison for shoplifting and the big guys either get a cabinet position or get to enrich their families and relatives while they retire in a white-collar prison.
DOUBLE STANDARD. NO JUSTICE EXISTS IN THIS COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY IS NOT ONLY GOING DOWN THE DRAIN BUT I CAN'T EVEN SEE THE WATER ANYMORE. IF YOU HAVE MONEY YOU CAN BUY YOUR WAY, NO PROBLEM (AND WE'LL PRINT SOME MORE WORTHLESS PAPER TO GIVE YOU). OH, LET'S ASK MR. G. AGAIN TO GIVE US HIS INSIGHTFUL THOUGHTS AS TO WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT A WORLD MONETARY STANDARD AND IF AIG NEEDS THOSE BONUSES.
Our children are in deep trouble and the self-serving leaders of this country are much to blame. The bulk of our young people are going to be the future "pennies an hour" China laborers of today.
Re: B.O.'s cabinet does not have to obey the law?
EEO
Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:44 PM
We (federal employees) overwhelmingly voted for Mr. Obama and we should support him even if "some" of his cabinet choices have (maybe) committed crimes.
They're different than us. CUT THEM A BREAK!! Just try being a GS-15 or whatever grade they are. IT ISN'T EASY!!
How would you like it if someone pointed out everytime you sped on the way to work or shoplifted a small item from WalGreens? You wouldn't like that, would you? NO. So leave these people alone and let them run our country!! I need to get paid!!
Re: B.O.'s cabinet does not have to obey the law?
The one I work for
Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:24 AM
Oh wait...you're a "diversity" manager for EEO, of course you're serious. My bad.
Double Standards
IRS
Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:12 AM
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While I can't believe she was ignorant enough to let this continue after she was warned, I find it laughable that she should be fired for this. Perhaps a suspension and a promise of at least a 3-yr future audit would have been enough. If the head of the entire Treasury Department can cheat on multiple years -- and not even pay back the money from previous years (because of statute limitations), she should not have been fired. If the guy who supposedly writes our tax laws in Congress can get away with a $75K "mistake", she should not have been fired.
Unequal Treatment
Forest Service
Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:14 AM
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Does it seem odd that an empolyee who propably has minor public contact is treated so harshly while the head and face of the IRS is given a pass on his tax returns. Not at all when the person is an appointee of this administartion.