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Boomers Retiring from Federal Jobs Could Equal Opportunity

Excellent Article

Retired Program Analyst
USAF, USAR, and USDA
Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:54 AM

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I "grew up" in the Federal Government and was fortunate enough to have folks willing to mentor me. When I started I was a green behind the ears 18 year old with just a high school education. I think I finally got a B.S. degree because I was tired of hearing about how much I needed it!

In the mid-1980's until the end of my career in 2007, I was in the position of mentor and, wow, what was I preaching? Exactly what is in your article and how very, very, very important that degree is to anyone--male or female.

There is going to be a tremendous amount of opportunity. It is not going to fall in anyone's lap but it is not going to take much to find it.

Great article. Thank you.

Linda Sullivan
Bellevue, NE

interesting

Supervisory IT Specialist
DON
Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:09 AM

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I too have been passed over for promotions despite numerous professional IT certifications, years of experience, and recently completed MBA.

While I do think that stuff is important, don't overlook the power of networking.

I tend to blame the good old boy network when I get passed over, but have started to look at my social skills and try to network a bit more.

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Friendly Fed
Army
Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:45 AM
The fact that you are a "supervisory" IT specialist means that you were selected for something, at some point. Nobody is born a supervisor. While I obviously don't know the circumstances of each time you were passed over, there may have been things that were out of your ability to control. You are to be respected for your willingness to improve your social skills instead of wallowing in self-pity and victimization.

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Computer Specialist
VA
Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 AM
Actually, when I was passed over, and was told the competition was keen, what I do not have was "VA supervisor" experience. While the position was a Technical Lead, my experience as a supervisor providing defense contract to the DoD does not count as supervisory because it was not VA. This is not self-pity or vitimization, this is a case of not kissing the right behind.

Before I came to work for the government, my friends and coworkers wondered why I decided to take a federal job? They said I was too energetic to become a fat and lazy federal employee. Now from the inside I can tell you that federal employee are not lazy, most seemed to be that way because the wind was knocked out of their sail and they are tired of trying.

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Friendly Fed
Army
Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:05 PM
Computer Spec, a couple of things: while having direct supervisory experience with VA is not the most important attribute, it does mean something. There are many nuances & quirks about VA that don't apply to DoD (& vice-versa) & if you're going to supervise, it helps greatly to know the lay of the land of the agency & specific organization. It's more than a matter of kissing the right behind. Also, & not to criticize, it's interesting that you refer to yourself as a "Computer Specialist" when the position has been retitled "I.T. Specialist" for several years now - no big thing, maybe, but for someone aspiring to a supervisory role, presumably in the IT/Computer world, something that a selecting official might wonder about.

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Computer Specialist
VA
Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:09 AM
While the title maybe officially change to IT Specialist. Our position title is still "Computer Specialist" for all official paper work. After spending the last 13+ years at the VA, I am convinced that kissing the right behind is the ticket to promotion. Sometime I wondered why I came to work for the federal government, I should have stayed with defense contracting. Oh, I remembered, my goal was to become a fat and lazy federal employee, or I was tired of trying because I was told that "you are with the VA now, throw common sense out of the window?".

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Hugh Moody, Private Citizen
Retired - CSRS
Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:34 PM
Computer Specialist, with your cynical attitude, I can see why you've been passed over. It's bound to come across in interviews and in everyday contacts. I was a supervisor for some of my career and the riskiest, most important decision most supervisors make is hiring people - especially those who will themselves be leading or supervising others. You don't want some loser with a bad attitude which would infect the entire workforce, no matter how technically qualified they might be. Since you have such a low opinion of VA - which may be justified, I don't know - why don't you leave and go someplace where you'll be happier?

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Computer Specialist
VA
Fri May 1, 2009 9:50 AM
My Retired - CSRS, exit strategy is being work on.

Baby boomer

Supervisor
MEDCOM
Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:08 PM

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I took started straight out of high school, in fact while in 11th grade the Feds came to my high school to give the federal employee test. Our typing and steno teachers sent in our final grades after we graduated. I got my first job GS-2 two months after graduation. I am now a GS10, supervising four employees and will be retiring next year more because of health than anyother reason. I will return as a volunteer, so I can work part time.

Boomers Retiring from Federal Jobs Could Equal Opp

Mine Safety & Health Assistant
Mine Safety and Health Administration
Wed May 6, 2009 9:41 AM

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I am 53 and plan to work forever. Even if it means staying in the GS-6 position I have. I've heard all of the 'why have you waited so long to pursue a career' comments (i.e., get your old butt out of here). Well, I had children to raise, parents to care for and a drunk for a husband. Now it is just me and I'm going to work until the building falls in around me! A promotion? I'd love one. Retirement? Forget it!

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Registered Nurse
W.G. Bill Hefner VA Medical Center
Mon May 11, 2009 3:35 PM
You have that old government ENTITLEMENT attitude. Sorry for your life, but that should not guarantee you a lifetime position in an agency. When I write OLD, I am not referring to your age, it is the attitude.
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