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The Rehire Geezer Feds Act

Bargaining Unit Status

I Am Not Floyd Nimbus
Retiree
Thu May 28, 2009 7:30 AM

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Granted, only three readers here care about this but I am the fourth. I'd like this author (or anyone else for that matter) to discuss and opine the unit status of these newly hire annuitants especially in activities who have had no geezers in the past and the unit descriptions are ancient and ambiguous concerning them. For example, are they included in a unit where the description says: "All employees of activity X except those excluded by 5 USC X"? How about those unit descriptions that exclude temps on appointments for less than 120 days or less than one year? What if the new geezers are on term appointments and terms are not expressly excluded from the unit?

The Rehire Geezer Feds Act

Manager
DHS
Thu May 28, 2009 7:50 AM

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Using the word "geezer" is highly offensive, regardless of the age of the person who writes it. You would not refer to any other ethnic, religious, gender or sexual orientation group by certain familiar derogatory names. There would be howls of protest, and rightfully so! Why do you think it's OK to refer to people of retirement age by this term? Consider this my howl of protest.

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hr specialist
federal agency
Thu May 28, 2009 8:06 AM
Everyone knows that when it comes to dealing with the federal workforce, any attempt at humor involving any human being is probably going to be criticized. We have been lectured, propagandized, and submitted to mind-numbing videos about the danger of referring to any group as a group by any name that someone, somewhere, somehow would consider offensive. That pretty much eliminates most humor--although white males from the South are generally a fair target in most agencies--especially in Washington, New York, or San Francisco.

In this case though, according to his bio, Mr. Orr may qualify as a "geezer." Normally, under the rules of political correctness that dominates our culture throughout the bureaucracy, that entitles him to belittle or otherwise make fun of the group or even use a disparaging name since he is a member of it.

Why are you trying to change the rules now? Besides that, his article makes a good point. Anyway, having known Mr. Orr for at least the latter years of his long federal career, he knows what he is talking about and makes his points much more effectively that most government speakers and writers.

Let's try to restore our sense of humor and not be so self-righteous and uptight.

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Retired
Retired
Thu May 28, 2009 9:08 AM
Lighten up and check your priorities.

It is good humor. Get over it, and while you are at it, get over your self-serving sense of importance at DHS. Worry more about why DHS is a money drain that does nothing to make Americamore secure while hurting travel and trade at the same time.

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Another Fedsmith Author
Fedsmith
Thu May 28, 2009 9:23 AM
As a retired Federal employee and well past middle aged Fedsmith author, I think we should include in any legislation an appeal system for those offended by being called geezers. It should be a one step process that gives the offender a free lawyer and the alleged geezer expression deliverer (AGED) no rights at all. If the allegation is found to be true, the appellant gets a mandatory $300,000.00 verdict. It's time justice was done.

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Budget Analyst
Small Agency
Thu May 28, 2009 10:18 AM
We sure do refer to other groups by nicknames! Lighten up and quit being so quick to take offense where none was intended.

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Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Thu May 28, 2009 12:51 PM
I am highly offended that the author left out us geezerettes.

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Supervisor
DOA
Thu May 28, 2009 6:04 PM
I'm highly offended at that you find yourself offended.

Sincerely,
King of the Geezers

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Reformed Conservative
DFAS
Fri May 29, 2009 7:47 AM
It's Friday--shall we all get together and geeze after work?

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Supervisor
DOA
Fri May 29, 2009 4:48 PM
TGIG - Thank God I'm a Geezer.

The Rehire Geezer Feds Act

Retired DoD Audit Manager
DoD Inspector General
Thu May 28, 2009 7:51 AM

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Your poor attempt at humor fell short. I never got past the title for your article. You should know better.

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worker
Fed
Thu May 28, 2009 9:50 AM
Then read the article. It is a pretty good analysis of the issue. Get over the geezer nonsense. It is insignificant.
I am of retirement age with the time in to be able to retire.

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Budget Analyst
Small Agency
Thu May 28, 2009 10:17 AM
Lighten up. You're reinforcing the stereotype that people of a certain age (geezers) can't laugh at themselves.

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hr
dod
Thu May 28, 2009 10:38 AM
Lighten up Francis!

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Former Injury Comp Clerk
DoD
Thu May 28, 2009 5:54 PM
hr gets 57 brownie points for a successful Stripes reference. Well done.

Geezers, Depends, and Wheelchairs...Oh My

IT Specialist
DOD
Thu May 28, 2009 8:39 AM

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It is interesting that the older workforce screams bloody murder when the Government hires younger feds and promotes them quickly to fill in the retirement gaps even though they lack experience. Now the younger workforce is screaming bloody murder about the need to bring back the older workforce because the Government needs the experience that the younger workforce isn't necessarity filling quickly. Thus preventing the younger workforce from being promoted quickly. Young fresh ideas can be great, but they can also be stupid as well. Just like old ideas can sometimes stagnate an office environment. Unions don't want retirees back because they are less likely to join the Union. It is all about Money.

Re: Geezers, Depends, and Wheelchairs...Oh My

Realty
BOR
Thu May 28, 2009 9:13 AM
You are right, there is an interesting dichotomy that exists between the young and the old of the government. I happen to be in the younger crowd (under 30) and I see these contract employees as a waste of money. Many of them (speculating as I only work with 5) spend their days chatting with ex co-worker or they are so worried about getting to golf on time that they are unproductive. Many of them lack the experience on a computer or with email to be productive. Why no give young college graduates a shot at taking on more responsibility for higher pay? Instead of the Geezer Act why not have the I just graduate with a college degree and need a decent paying job act? Of course the bureaucracy doesn't want to change or admit that they are inefficient, so why not bring back those retirees and pay them to do something a young employee could be trained on?

Re: Geezers, Depends, and Wheelchairs...Oh My

worker
Fed
Thu May 28, 2009 9:54 AM
To Reality BOR

To answer your question-It takes more than 6 months or a year for a tax person to be effective. it takes a number of years. A good rep can eat up an inexperienced tax person.
I guess the IRS does not have enough experienced tax people to do the job. I, however, do not know this factually.

The Rehire Geezer Feds Act

Analyst
USDA
Thu May 28, 2009 8:59 AM

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If they want to contribute, check out meal on wheels or something like that. Most of the recent retirees contributed little to the mission and needed to go sit on the porch. Sorry, for the harshness but so many won't or can't get new computer skills essential to our mission and harp it was better the way we did it 30 years ago.

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worker
Fed
Thu May 28, 2009 9:57 AM
I am almost 60 years old. When the computers were first available I did as much work on the computer as possible. It was not perfect, but it was more than adequate.
I do not have the same computer skills as my children. But I do have enough to do my job.

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Budget Analyst
Small Agency
Thu May 28, 2009 10:21 AM
While some retirees are stuck in the past and not productive, the retirees we were able to bring back have been incredible. They're knowledge base and practicality have done wonders for our dysfunctional organization that is full of people that need to find a job that better suits them.

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Specialist
Federal Agency
Thu May 28, 2009 12:20 PM
At least the older workers have a work ethic. They might not be superstars on computers or be able to text with their eyes closed, but I bet they will spend time working when they are AT work rather than playing on the internet and texting friends on their cell phones.

Personally, I believe when you retire you need to retire. Let the government figure out for itself that your skills were wasted. Heck, we can all be replaced - the question is though what will you replace us old geezers with???

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Former Injury Comp Clerk
DoD
Thu May 28, 2009 5:59 PM
I have to second Analyst's comment. I now work in medical records, and in the past year we have seen many changes in policy toward a more efficient, paperless records system. The nature of the job is changing rapidly, but my coworkers are either unwilling or unable to change with it. There are also many elderly doctors who simply refuse to use computer systems, which holds the entire hospital back.

I'm the youngest worker on my shift by 17 years. I am also the de facto tech support.

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tech
USDA
Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:44 AM
Wow, you must be able to point and click on your worthless office computer get a job where you do something!

How can I miss you when you NEVER leave

WorkingStiff
NorthEast
Thu May 28, 2009 9:04 AM

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Sounds like an extension of the Secret Service double dip for all of us not able to retire under the DC Fire/Police Retirement System. Retire and move along already folks, you're blocking my opportunities to advance!

Geezer Article

Legal Employee
DoD
Thu May 28, 2009 9:05 AM

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I disagree with one part of the article, which is that unions represent employees. Unions represent unions and they have political agendas that have nothing to do with employees. If unions really cared about employees they would care about inproving the work environment as a whole, which means bringing anyone into the workforce who can contribute and make everyone's job a little easier. That of course will never happen because they have made deals with politicians on both sides of the fence - and politicians don't care about government employees either, unless it's election time. Am I cynical? Ater 30 years of government "service", you bet I am.

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Fed Worker & Union Guy
DOD
Thu May 28, 2009 10:00 AM
Legal Employee DoD:
I will remember your brain numbing, defeatist sarcasm, the next time I represent someone. Thankfully, my union brothers & sisters are NOT as you describe.
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