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Form Over Substance: Federal Employee Virtual Suggestion Program Falls Flat

Suggestions

PERSEC
Army
Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:20 AM

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Good luck with a reply! I've submitted two suggestions through the Army suggestion program. One was delayed SO long that by the time they looked at it (2 years later) the suggestion had been thought up by someone else who didnt need to go through the system and implimented into regulation.

The other took 3 years to be looked at and I got a long apologetic email for the delay and it was elevated to MACOM approval and has been there for about 2 years.

I can see this via their old online tracking system which last time I checked had went down as well. Basically nobody pays attention to it.

Re: Suggestions

Fiscally Responsible Fed
Somewhere
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:02 AM
At USDA, I had a suggestion that went through the system and the reply was that it could not be implemented because the Negotiated Agreement precluded it--making individual development plans optional. These were not being done, and for those that were done, it was a paper shuffle with entries such as "no training needed" just to comply with the requirement.

Oddly a week later, management discussed this with the Union and it was made optional. Of course, I sent an inquiry, and I received a "certificate of appreciation" for my foresight.

Cynically, it may have happened that someone else stole the idea and took credit for it. Realistically, it shows the low priority Agency managers place on soliciting and considering ideas that might be considered "out of the box."

Finally, the office in charge of IDPs also was responsible for awards and recognition--so why would they advocate a suggestion that would result in less work for them to check in Personnel Management Reviews!

Re: Suggestions

Fiscally Responsible Fed
Somewhere
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:04 AM
At USDA I submitted a suggestion that sat on someone's desk for two years. It was lost, so I had to resubmit it.

I resubmitted it, and also submitted another suggestion that Suggestions be tracked, and if an office is on the routing for reviewing and comment, that if they don't comment within five business days, it should be recorded as concurrence by default and move along to the next office.

I never heard anything on that suggestion to improve the Employee Suggestion Program.

Re: Suggestions

Knowledge Worker
DOS
Fri Jun 5, 2009 10:14 AM
Ummmm--did you even read the article? It says nothing about the Army's suggestion program.

Here's what happened: From Federal Computer Week, not exactly a partisan mouthpiece: http://fcw.com/Articles/2009/06/08/buzz-open-government-dialogue-birth-certificate.aspx?s=fcwdaily_050609&Page=1

Ideas to go directly to the White House

Nurse
CMS
Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:52 AM

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I have several ideas on how our programs can be managed more efficiently and effectively. I was waiting for the announcement as to where and in what form to send suggestions. I naively thought we might even get notice via email. I will now attempt to go through that website which you listed. Or even write to the White House. Thank you.

Above article

HR Specialist
OPM
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:07 AM

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For all the pyrotechic hype, things haven't changed. Our political "leadership," whether Democrat or Republican, is hypocritical and/or dismissively arrogant when it comes to the point of really being interested in suggestions "from the bowels of the bureaucracy." It makes for a nice sound bite when a stirring message is put out - oh so apparently in earnest - seeking out the "frontline's views, but it's all a media version of a Potemkin village - just for show.

Past suggestions

worker
Fed
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:07 AM

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Years ago I put in suggestions for my area of the government that was done in another area. These suggestions were implemented and I received no reward for these suggestions.
Never again.

Suggestions

Management Analyst
USDA
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:08 AM

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Perhaps it is because I am a cynic by nature, but I seriously doubt that any input the White House receives from the Federal employees will be given any more thought than dumping it into a virtual trash bin. This action seems to be more like a political move than of anything of substance. It looks good in the media and to the general public and I am willing to bet that's where the White House's concern stops.

Re: Suggestions

Fiscally Responsible Fed
Somewhere
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:42 AM
The unions have suggested dismantling pay for performance and returning to GS.

So much for that suggestion. OPM RECENTLY announced it is exploring ways to implement pay for performance.

Unions are GENUFLECTING to Obama and Berry so they have some input into the system.

Re: Suggestions

retired fed
DHHS
Thu Jun 4, 2009 10:31 AM
I agree with Management Analyst/USDA, but for a different reason. After 30+ years of this before I retired I doubt if any viable suggestion could ever get to the White House. While I did many regulatory briefings at OMB (as close as I ever got to the White House) the people we briefed were career people who reported to political appointees. I can't imagine how any suggestion could penetrate all the way to the top tier of the paper ceiling. This effort was probably well-intentioned but naive.

No Surpise

Retired LR Manager
Retired
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:16 AM

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Sounds like the bailout plot--hurry up and wait..all about hollywood public relations--not snookered on his approach.

Suggestion Program

Potato, Tomato, and Pepper Grower
Oaklandon
Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:26 AM

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When I first joined the Federal govt. as a sillyvilian, DoD had a large, well-publicized suggestion program that was quite active, generated improvements and savings and was generally well respected. What happened to that old program and why do we need this new one?

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