Re: Too Bad ISSA

Reactionary??? You are a reactionary.

"Let's Go" what - conitinue to turn the US into a socialist, dependant state? Continue to spend the US into oblivion? Benefits have costs - yes, serioulsy, true costs - but accountants wouldn't know that I guess.

I say we take money from retired DOE accountants and send it to new GS-9 or below parents - after all, don't they deserve it more than you, and you don't really need all of the GS-14 pension (whoops - the socialist propoganda I was fed is trying to coming out).

Re: Too Bad ISSA

Retired - Don't try to turn this into a partisan spat.

That's a cheap stunt, we should expect better from someone who reached a pay grade of GS-14.

Re: Too Bad ISSA

I have not been a reactionary, but I am opposed to this action. It discriminates between disabilities. For example, why should those with cancer have to use sick leave, while a pregnant woman gets to use leave without charge? This makes no sense to me.
Again, In the mid to late 80's and early 90's I used annual leave for 2 weeks each time to help my wife with my newborn children.
I am for a liberal leave policy on this issue, but I think we ought to save our leave for reasons like this.

Re: Too Bad ISSA

The many, many active and retired Fed employees in Congressman Issa' 49th district in California will not forget his comments anytime soon. I guess after 5 terms you can quit listening to your constitutents.

Re: Too Bad ISSA

Partisan spat? Too late! check out Issa's you tube video.
Not at all about debating merit of the issue...all about politics.


http://www.youtube.com/repdarrellissa

Re: Too Bad ISSA

I happened to be one of those people Fed Worker talked about. I had cancer several years back where I needed to take quite a bit of leave. I used all my sick leave and annual leave just so I could get full pay, I was so glad that the years leading up to my illness I did not abuse my leave. If the bill would have included the use of there own accrued time first I was all for it, but to just give someone paid leave is ridiculous. I also had a child last year, and again I used my accrued time.

I would like to pass a bill that will get all my leave that I used for my cancer treatments and my childs birth.

Re: Too Bad ISSA

This has nothing to do with democrat vs republican...if you think that is the issue here you are badly mistaken. Unless you are saying it's the democrats who can't manage their leave and need the taxpayer to give them more. I personally don't appreciate my tax dollars being used to fund such lack of planning on the employee's part.

Re: Lets Use the Chinese as an Example

Your choice of an example is putrid. I am opposed to this bill, but would never bring up the concept of the Chinese. Your example makes you and your argument look really bad. A liberal leave policy is reasonable including loaned leave. The extra leave is not appropriate because it discriminates against other disabilities.

Re: Lets Use the Chinese as an Example

Div Man,

We've know for a while now that you wanted the benefits of a Chinese peasant to set the standard for Civil Service employees, but I'm surprised that you now actually admit it. ;-)

Re: Lets Use the Chinese as an Example

It's funny that you would use the Chinese as an example. Should we also start limiting the number of children people can have, and aborting girls ahead of time? Also, I am tired of all the complaints about 'my tax money used for your personal choice'. Please, that is basically all tax money goes towards...personal choices. Welfare, public schools, police forces in every city, etc etc. And to answer someone else...many companies offer this benefit or at least pay for their employee's short term disability which allows mothers of new babies to get some form of income while out for up to 12 weeks based on medical need. Everyone rants about how great the Fed benefits are, but I had much better benefits and higher pay in the private sector, which I traded for job security several years ago.

Re: Lets Use the Chinese as an Example

"Diversity Manager" is retired military on the Federal dole with a pension for life, yet he rails against anyone else getting "theirs" from the Government. This irony is not lost everytime we read your rants, I assure you.

If half of large corporations give paid parental leave, the military, and 170+ other inudstrialized nations, then this should be offered to federal employees and the average American as well. Helping the future of this country with such a simple benefit is not a crime, my retired and angry conservative son.

Re: Lets Use the Chinese as an Example

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Please do not say that Diversity manager's pension is on the dole. It is not. part of our compensation for services is our pension. Therefore, his retirement is for servicesw rendered and is not welfare.
Diversity manager and I have major differences. I also disagree with his attitude. But our pension benefits do not equate to the dole.

Re: Paid Parental Leave

This is a waste of taxpayers money, and as a tax payer I do not approve. Haveing a child is a choice, not part of one Position Description. If you choose to have a child plan accordingly, and stop abusing your leave practices! How many companies give this type of benefit?

Re: Paid Parental Leave

Wow, that really was the Department of Labor!!! HAHAHA

Anyway, most responsible Feds SAVE and PLAN their leave. This emergency about having a baby is another cunard. Its wrong and bad law and will encourage more irresponsible leave management by employees, and especially the younger employees!

Re: Paid Family Leave

Most of the fortune 100 give female executives, at least, paid maternity leave. The woman on the assembly line probably doesn't get those privileges.

Re: Paid Family Leave

"What Fortune 100 company gives employees PAID maternity leave?"

A quickie list for you. . .

Price Waterhouse Cooper
Russell Investment Group
Arnold & Porter LLP (12 wks of paid maternity leave)
IKEA
Boston Consulting Group (three months of paid maternity leave)
Google (moms up to 18 weeks of paid maternity leave; dads get seven weeks)
Alston & Bird (90 days of paid maternity)
IBM (8 wks)
Ernst & Young (16 wks)

Re: Paid Family Leave

"A quickie list for you. . .

Price Waterhouse Cooper
Russell Investment Group
Arnold & Porter LLP (12 wks of paid maternity leave)
IKEA
Boston Consulting Group (three months of paid maternity leave)
Google (moms up to 18 weeks of paid maternity leave; dads get seven weeks)
Alston & Bird (90 days of paid maternity)
IBM (8 wks)
Ernst & Young (16 wks) "

Hmmm I wonder if any of them have any vacancies because there seem to be a lot of young professional federal workers who aren't happy with their job and/or benefits. Maybe they can go work at these companies whose benefits obviously include manna from heaven.

Re: Paid Family Leave

When asked whether employees or candidates for employment ever cite the lack of paid parental leave as their reason for leaving or refusing Federal employment, the agencies were unanimous in saying no.
Mike Causey's Federal Report. The entire article is very illuminating.
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=20&sid=1690238

Re: Paid Family Leave

This is the "bailout" program for federal employees that decide to have children. We are being forced to pay for all the other bailouts, I guess they figure why not this one? I had to use my leave when I had my children, and planned ahead to ensure that I had a paycheck coming in. Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine, or in the case of paid family leave, a bailout!