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FERS Sick Leave Credit and Locality Pay for Some Federal Employees Passes in House

our government raises

Real Estate Contracting Officer
FAA
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:40 AM

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I am unhappy with the way our annual raises are being added. Our salary increases minimally, and a check is sent to us for the rest of the raise of course after taxes are deducted. That makes it difficult to improve your retirement income because the high 3 years is dramatically reduced. I am a FERS employee and approaching retirement age and my pension will be one third of my present salary including Social Security. That will not enable me to live a decent life unless I cut down on some necessities. Why can't that policy be changed? I have written my representatives and it seems they turn a deaf ear.

The politicians enjoy a great life after retirement and they pulled this trick on the government workers. Did they forget that they work for US, and we don't work for them?

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Attorney
DOD
Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:19 AM
Real Estate Contracting Officer
FAA
Did I read your post incorrectly? It appears you are basing your high three on your net pay and not your gross? You also get a SS supplement until you reach 62 at which time you may start to draw ss and the supplement stops. If you retire at 62 your percentage is 1.1% times your creditable service and not 1%. Also for a FERS retiree you do not get a COLA until you reach 62. So if you are 57 y.o. and retire your COLA will not kick in for several years. So depending on the COLA's given you may be 15-20% behind when you reach 62. Last, you do not have to withdraw/"cash in" your TSP until about 70 y.o.a. In this current market you may want to wait or consider seeing a financial adviser to pull out your TSP and privately invest it.

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worker
Fed
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:20 AM
Did you contribute 5% per year to TSP? Did you get the 5% match? This should have made up much of the difference between CSRS and FERS. Of course the problem is that the stock market drop may have hurt your TSP. If that is the case, you may have to work longer for the market to recover and maximize your pension to about 40% of your top 3 salaries minus survivor benefit.

They have finally seen the light!

Supervisor
DLA
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:44 AM

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It's about time! Federal employees under FERS have been abusing their sick leave. Can you really blame them? Seriously, you offer sick leave, yet you don't reward those that don't use it, and work hard for the govt. I'm glad somebody finally had some common sense, and is doing the right thing. How some of these idiotic rules get put into place is beyond me, but then again, I wonder how the people who created the idiotic rules got their jobs. It's too early in the day to have a headache thinking about it. LOL

Re: They have finally seen the light!

worker
Fed
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:22 AM
It was done by Ronald Reagan and his cronies. Unfortunately, it was passed by Congress.

Sick Leave

HR
Anon
Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:53 AM

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Federal Employees and retirees to be need to lead by example. Selfless over Selfish, rather than say give me, give me, give me isn't time to say enough is enough

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Clerk
DOI
Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:40 AM
You want "selfless over selfish?" Let those employees with their hands out for more birth/adoption pay lead the way!

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Fed Peasant
DOD
Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:49 AM
NO!!!!

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it speclst
nps
Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:17 PM
tsk. and you're in HR. Apparently you don't live in the affected areas or don't care. That fed employees that live and work in particular areas should be treated differently than the rest of us is ridiculous. Especially when it can affect your entire life after retirement. The senate needs to step up and pass it so Alaska and the Islands employees are treated the same regarding locality pay.

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ANALYSIS
USMC
Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:17 AM
WELL - WE know that this HR person is a CSRS person, and
NOT a FERS person.

Let us be honest.

Otherwise this HR personnel would NOT be saying anything.

This HRO person is saying loud and clear:
YA - it is okay -- not to pay (give credit towards retirement) to FERS employees for sick leave,
BUT
YES - COntinue to give pay(Give credit towards retirement) to CSRS employees for sick leave.

No one is stupid.

IF a FERS person in the past did not use their sick leave they lost it at there retirement (OH they say the retirement stays in the goverment for when you come back in to work for the goverment, BUT - I know thousands of FERS personnel with over 1000 hours on the books that have retired and they NEVER come back into the governement - so it is called highway robber -- when the government keeps FERS sick leave) HR should get with the program and stop support the problem.

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worker
Fed
Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:13 AM
I agree with the others and not with HR. By allowing sick leave credit we can reduce the FERS flu. It also increases morale. Stop with the name calling HR. You have not case.
I am a CSRS person and will not benefit from this action.

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HR
Army
Tue Jul 7, 2009 9:25 AM
I am an HR Specialist also, and I have worked in the Benefits arena for over 25 years. I think that it is high time that the FERS employees received the same benefit as the CSRS employees when it comes to their sick leave. I have instructed many Leave courses and tell employees constantly that their sick leave is an insurance, but when you have been able to save it up so that you have hours when retirement eligible, why should you not get credit for it? In the long run it will cost the government less if they use it in the retirement computation as opposed to the FERS employee being out sick for most of their final days with the agency. And I do not believe that is selfish, they have worked hard for many years and have the leave accumulated because they were dedicated to the agency.

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IT
NOAA
Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:53 AM
I didn't hear you complaining when you received credit for your sick leave and start receiving locality pay. But in case I was paying attention and you don't want locality pay nor receive credit for you sick leave, just make you checks payable to the US Treasury and mail them in. And you can deduct the cost of the envelope and stamp.

FERS Sick Leave Credit and Locality

Purchasing Agent
USDA
Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:43 AM

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I wonder how this change will effect the Washington Gang. I am sure they benefit no matter what.

Locality Pay for Alaska and Hawaii

Contracting Officer
USDA
Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:47 AM

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COLA in Alaska and Hawaii for federal employees is not taxable; but it also isn't part of your retirement pay. This means that someone in, for instance, Iowa getting 'rest of the US' pay can retire with a larger retirement than someone of an equal grade doing the same work in Alaska or Hawaii.

We lose people for the 'high three' so that they can increase their retirement pay. This is a drain on qualified people who SHOULD be able to work out their remaining years where they WANT to live, where family and friends are.

I congratulate the House for working to correct this inequity and look forward to the Senate doing the same.

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Engineer
DOD
Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:45 AM
We lose folks all the time going down south to get their "high three", after that they usually come back. It is the only way for us to receive the same retirement benefits as those in the lower 48 states. How much does this cost the gov in relocation costs I wonder....same goes for Hawaii. The COLA here in Ak is based on Alaska being OCONUS....is it?

locality pay alaska

land law examiner
BLM
Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:15 AM

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How long will it be before the Senate votes on locality pay for Alaska?

I want disability insurance not banked sick days.

IT Guy
DoD
Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:01 PM

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I tried getting disability insurance and couldn’t because I worked for the government. Give me short term disability insurance and you can cap my sick days and give me fewer. I keep them because they are my disability insurance.

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