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Forget the Sacrifice: Bumping Up the 2010 Pay Raise
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Pay Raise
FSA
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:34 AM
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The military deserves the higher raise. It's very arrogant for us as civilian employees to say we're making the same sacrifices as the military. That's garbage.
Re: Pay Raise
US Army
Wed Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM
Guilt Mongers
DOD
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:38 AM
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There seems to be this tireless, endless, effort to make federal workers feel guilty about their pay raises, however small. Will we see the same headlines if under pay for performance, certain employees get a dreamy 6, 8, or 10 percent pay raise? So much for motivating workers!! By the way....WHERE IS MY STOCK OPTIONS??
Re: Guilt Mongers
dod agency
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM
Perhaps the government ownership of GM and Chrysler will pay you a dividend. Or, perhaps, a raise of 3.4% next year while unemployment is at 10% or more should be considered a stock option.
We have sacrificed when the Rest of USA did not.
SSA and AFGE
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM
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One has to remember that in the Clinton Administration, we had our contribution rate to our retirement systems increased 2-3 years when our funds were solvent to fund tax decreases for the rest of USA. Also FEHB is costly with poor coverage so that private insurances companies can make big bucks off of Uncle Sam and provide less and less in return.
Giving feds the pay increase helps soothe a bit the fact that fed executive branch unions cannot negotiate for pay, health insurance and pensions like the rest of the public sector in the USA.
Almost there was a year under Reagan that we got zero increase so that with FEHB increases, we ended up with a pay cut-- and the economy was NOT in a bad recession.
Why Should We Sacrifice?
DoD
Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM
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Why should we sacrifice a pay increase when we are going to dole out all our pay in taxes when this administration gets through with all the proposals they want to push through. With Cap and Tax (Trade) we will be lucky to have anything left over to buy a candy bar. Wait until the nationalized health care and VAT come into play. We will be working just to pay taxes and to support those that aren't working.
Feds Just Don't Get It!
USAF
Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:27 AM
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Federal employees just don't understand the state of this economy nor do they feel the pain of unemployment, lack of any health insurance, vacation or other benefits. Feds are too isolated from the real world of no jobs or pay. Unions are now dead in the US after destroying the auto industry. Let's put a couple of million of them on the street so they will understand the hurt the average taxpayer is feeling today. Zero percent pay increase should be acceptable to them rather than no job. Who do they think is paying this massive debt they are running up?
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
ssa
Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
DOD
Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:18 PM
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
hhs
Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:16 AM
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
VA
Wed Jul 1, 2009 7:29 AM
We DO "get it". And then some. I've been keeping track the past year, and everything I pay for has gone up a lot. Electric bill? 11% City sewer tax? 38% Chimney cleaning? 20% (not that I blame the guy - he needs to make a living too).
It was hard to read the "lead in" for this article, saying that since we might get over 3% raise, we won't be making a sacrifice. Get real.
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
dod agency
Wed Jul 1, 2009 7:58 AM
We need to remember that the only reason we get a check is because of the wealth created in the private sector. The government does many important things but, ultimately, the only way we get paid is by having an economy with a private sector that can pay the taxes to support our pay, benefits and agency expenses. We do pay taxes--but our taxes our paid from money collected from private individuals and companies. Moreover, our pay and benefits are already at twice the national average for the American family.
Please temper your whining. The world (and the private sector) does not owe us a living.
Re: Feds Just Don't Get It!
IRS
Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:22 PM
Congress Pay
Veterans Administration
Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:17 PM
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I'm not certain, but I believe our legislators have not taken to the smaller raise concept. After all, they are very important people, unlike us "regular" government drones.
They already get free healthcare from us; seems like that alone is worth a smaller raise. I wish I didn't have to pay for mine, especially since my salary is not even close to theirs! And I have 20 years in government service!
California has the same problem; the state is broke, but the Legislators are still getting their raises. When A. ordered State employees to take work less hours, it did not apply to our Legislators, which is just unbelieveable since THEY created the mess over the years!!
Fed Pay Raise
SSA
Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:28 PM
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I can't help but respond to the negative comments about Federal employees. When private industry messes up, as they have during the past 8 years or so, they look to the Federal government--and yes, Federal employees--to bail them out. Who do you think is doing all of the grunt work to keep your benefits coming, to bail out the auto companies and the banks and the brokerage firms? It is me and my co-workers who show up day after day, take all of the insults from the public, the media, etc., do the work of 2 people, put up with bureaucratic requirements... And we actually care about the jobs that we do and the public that we serve. We are real people with children to support and bills to pay--just like you. Many of us have worked for the Federal government for a number of years (35 for me) when it was not cool to work for the government. We had average salaries and eroding benefits. No stock options, no fancy offices, we eat lunch in a cafeteria. Please give us a break!