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| Close | Change | YTD | |
| G | $13.0760 | +0.0011 | +2.63% |
| F | $13.4554 | -0.0007 | +6.95% |
| C | $12.9082 | -0.0394 | +23.71% |
| S | $15.5321 | -0.0625 | +27.24% |
| I | $18.2310 | -0.1403 | +27.89% |
| Close | Change | YTD | |
| L 2040 | $15.2768 | -0.0566 | +22.32% |
| L 2030 | $15.1461 | -0.0487 | +19.99% |
| L 2020 | $15.0617 | -0.0401 | +17.13% |
| L 2010 | $15.0897 | -0.0155 | +9.09% |
| L Income | $13.7765 | -0.0111 | +7.76% |
November 21, 2009
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Nicely Done
DOD
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:00 AM
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Nicely done, a much more accuate representation of federal employee salaries nationwide vs those in DC. ! Looks to me like the largest number of federal employees outside the DC area average 40-49K annually. Something new for all those concerned about the overpaid feds to think about!
Re: Nicely Done
Green Jobs
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM
The charts
fed
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:11 AM
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Wish I could download the software so I could see the charts. Cannot do so.
Anyway, a comparison of the same jobs in the same locality is needed. otherwise the stats mean nothing.
Averages are unfair
IRS
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:24 AM
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If you were to compare the salary of two GS - ?? employees (?? fill in with grade of your choosing), one working in DC and the other working in say, Denver, you would find that they are almost identical. This seems incredibly unfair considering the cost of living in the DC area is much higher than the cost of living in Denver (especially for housing).
There are a lot of high paid executives and higher grade jobs in the DC area, which makes the average salary in DC obviously higher than in other places. However, to state that feds in DC make more is not the whole story. You should compare grade-by-grade salaries and then get back to me.
Re: Averages are unfair
FED
Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:04 AM
Federal salaries
GSA
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:26 AM
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This is a good analysis. What would be even better is to add a look at average grade for Feds by DC and VA compared to the national average. If you just look at salaries, the data is skewed by locality pay. Some say metro DC Federal salaries are more driven by grade-flation than locality pay. In other words, a Fed in the metro area is also paid at a higher grade for the same work that another Fed does in Kansas City.
Re: Federal salaries
USFS
Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:55 PM
DC PAY
USDA
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:28 AM
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I work in DC and I'm trying to get to the Houston, TX area. My grade/step is approximately $8k MORE in Houston than what I make in DC with a much lower cost of living. Why that area makes more than DC, who knows (maybe because of oil) but that's my next move!
Re: DC PAY
none
Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:32 AM
Re: DC PAY
DOD
Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:13 AM
Does this factor in grade creep?
USCIS
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:29 AM
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What about the amazing trend for similar jobs at the headquarters offices to be at least a grade higher than those of us out in the field? In my own position my career ladder tops at GS-12, with supervisors being 13, and managers being 14. In DC the officers top at 13, supervisors at 14, and managers at 15. Coming from USDA I recall seeing a PD identical to that of our facility's HR assistants, who happened to be GS-5/6/7, but at headquarters an HR Project Specialist was a GS-9/11.
Maybe we should get our coworkers in the DC area to "spread the wealth" around a little bit.
Re: Does this factor in grade creep?
Yes
Tue Sep 8, 2009 1:22 PM
The pay scales in DC are higher at USCIS. They abuse the classification system and pay GS-14s for non-supervisory full performance level positions that would be classified and paid at GS-13 levels (I too was formerly USDA). At USDA, you had to be a "branch chief" and supervisor to occupy a GS-14. Not at USCIS.
This makes a mockery of the classification standards because managers just certify that the work is being done, but the people hired are not actually working full potential. Moreover, employees are given OUTSTANDING performance appraisals and annual performance awards, so employees have no incentive to do any meaningful work beyond the minimum.
I tried to take a performance based action and my supervisor promoted the employee and moved the problem to another supervisor, and since then to another supervisor.
That's been my experience at USCIS.
Pay Differentials By location
DHS
Tue Sep 8, 2009 8:30 AM
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What should also be compared is the cost of living in the various areas and the comparable salaries of non-Federal employees in the same areas. If you are located in Buffalo, NY or Portsmouth, VA it costs much less than living in NYC or the DC Metro area for both housing and day-to-day living expenses. Also, I'll bet you'll find that private industry salaries are much higher in the DC Metro area than in many other locations, especially based on the large turnover of Federal employees that move to contractor/consulting jobs in the Beltway.
Re: Pay Differentials By location
Green Jobs
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:21 PM
Re: Pay Differentials By location
fed
Wed Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM
It hasnot shown that feds get more money for the same job in the same location. Until that happens, your statement is an assertion.