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Death Panels, National Health Care and the VA

Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

Doctor of Education
General Services Administration
Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:56 AM

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Anybody who gives an credence at all to this GOP nonsense ought to have their head examined.

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

Engineer
FAA
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:13 AM
My brother is a veteran. He voted for Obama, and now Obama wants him dead?

We should alert the media to give full 24 hour coverage to this national issue unfording before our very eyes.

My head doesn't need examining. The tin foil hat is working just fine (MLB, please note).

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

worker
fed
Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:56 PM
To engineer FAA,
Where do you get the idea that obama wants your brother dead? From Repub propaganda?

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

Engineer
FAA
Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:49 PM
To worker @ fed,

Sorry, my sarcasm fell flat. I frequently comment (sarcastically) against both sides of the ticket, and when I can do so successfully I feel good. It didn't happen.

Both Democrats and Republicans shouild put aside party loyalty and look toward building a country that works. Health Care is bankrupting us. Reform will be done, or it will be forced on us when we're broke. Either way it'll happen.

See Read the Pamphlet!

(And yet Americans would rather fight among ourselves then fix a problem. I believe that if a group of Dems and Repubs were on a sinking ship, they would stand and argue rather than work together to get the lifeboat into the water.)

The VA must know what it's doing. They have the most consistenly high approval rating by those that use its services.

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

Diversity Manager
DOL
Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:39 PM
An example of why our educational system is suspect when we have FR of education unable to read and understand what barak's intentions are. So sad

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

worker
fed
Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:26 AM
To Engineer FAA,
Both sides should work together to find a solution that will make sure everyone is covered by health insurance. Whether it involves a public solution, co-ops or something else, a solution to this problem is needed.
Sorry I missed the sarcasm.

Re: Death Panel Flap a Bunch of Bunk

worker
fed
Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:29 AM
To diversity manager-I mean military retiree,
Since you like to distort Obama's intentions, your critisism of our education system has no validity.

Call it like you see it

DO
DHS/ICE
Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:35 AM

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It is clear that the liberal democrats are trying, once again, to tax us into prosperity. Kind of like eating your way thin.

Obama has lied about everything since he started campaigning.

If Obamacare passes in any form, we will pay more for less. And many of us will undoubtedly be denied (refused) care in our old age, as a cost cutting measure. After the cost-benefit analysis, it won't be in the governments best interest to give you that chemo or bypass or wahtever. And you will be sent along home to die.

Or you can believe the politicians who say that is false. And we all know how trustworthy they are.

Re: Call it like you see it

worker
fed
Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:58 PM
Sounds like you are are disgruntled repub. You lost.
Let the people who cannot afford insurance get insurance. This is what the plan is about.

Re: Call it like you see it

Accountant GS 14 Retired
DOE Albuquerque, NM
Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:27 PM
As opposed to borrowing us into prosperty?? LOL

Re: Call it like you see it

worker
fed
Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:31 AM
To acct.
Guess you would rather see the people who cannot get medical insurance get sick and die. I guess your type is setting up the death panels

Death Panels, what a bunch of lies

audit supervisor
Interior
Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:46 AM

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This is just the GOP trying to create fear again to win elections. What used to be a grand party is now the party of lies and fear. No death panels exist except in the myths of the GOP.

Read the Pamphlet

Paralegal Specialist
USPS
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:10 AM

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The document is available on the VA website; read it! I did. It's 54 pages long and is the best, most-balanced, publication I've seen for the purpose of stimulating serious consideration of important life-and-death issues. No one should feel free to comment on it without actually reading it.

Re: Read the Pamphlet

Editor
FedSmith.com
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:19 AM
The document is available as a link within this article and underneath the headline in pdf format.

Re: Read the Pamphlet

Engineer
FAA
Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:39 AM
"I get all the information I need from a variety of TV and radio**. There is a lot of legal talk that is meant ot confuse americans into thinking this is a good deal".

An actual person to whom I suggested they read a particular piece of legislation.

** Rush and Faux news, I'm sure.

I think Republicans can't read, in general.

Remember the past 8 years? I had similar quotes from Democrats concerning GOP bills introduced (the Modicare REform Act - which included death panels) was one.

They probably got their information from MSNBC.

I think Democrats can't read, in general.

Why doesn't everybody who's looking at this article and comments just view the pamphlet (I will tonight).

Be an informed American, not a party puppet.

More hypocricy

HR Specialist
DOI/NBC
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:12 AM

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Why the hand-wringing and outcry from those folks supposedly concerned about Veterans and Wounded Warriors? Where in God's name were they when Cheney, Bush, Rummy, et al, stoked the flames of a war of choice? You show your patriotism and concern for our Soldiers before they are sent off to make obscene profits for the military-industrial complex!
The whole "death panels" and "death books" conversation is political pot-shots at a popularly elected President Obama and is driven by the right wing fringe by using some people's inability to analyze the facts. Wake up people!

Re: More hypocricy

IT Specialist
DOD
Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:50 AM
Bush was popularly elected the second time, but it didn't stop the left wing nut jobs from taking their shots at him. You probably don't see the hypocracy of your comment due to the amount of kool-aid you have consumed. Only this time the special interests groups going after the Democrats and Republicans are "We the People" who are concerned about the direction our country is heading. Obama has already bullied private industry into following his policies with health care in the hopes of more profit and you paying more in taxes to defer their costs. People are generally scared of this administration and Congress. Recent Poll - 58 percent would like to throw all of Congress out and start over. I somehow doubt they are all right wing kooks as you suggest.

Re: More hypocricy

Fed Peasant
DOD
Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:38 PM
HR Specialist DOI/NBC:
I fully agree!! An emergency conclave was recently called for the republicans (& bought off blue dogs$$$$). Their national leader lectured, & preached, about strategies & tactics for the anti-healthcare reform war. Rush is doing a good job, of leading the troops, & protecting vital corporate interests!!

Re: More hypocricy

worker
fed
Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:43 AM
To IT Specialist,
You must drink an awful lot of kool aid to let it affect your writing and reasoning. The sugar must really have gotten to you.
I notice you made no comment about the first election. Sounds like you admit it was not so clean.
How much fraud was there in Ohio to get your friend George the votes in the second election? I doubt that he was popularly elected.
Us moderates take shots at your friend George because he left a mess. Obama is trying to clean it up the worst economic mess since the Great depression. Sorry you do not approve of his agenda, but we did not approve of George's fraudulent war in Iraq, his tax policies, and his "patriot act".
Of course there are other issues, but you are too stoned on sugar from kool aid to understand.

yep

dod analyst
dod
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:15 AM

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I'm sure that examination will be mandatory also, if Obamacare is passed -- as well as the Fairness Doctrine or its likes, so that all voices of discussion and opposition to Obama are sile6nced.

Re: yep

worker
fed
Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:51 AM
Sounds like you do not think that Obama is for democracy. What laws did his adminstration pass to deny freedom of speech?
Bush and his cronies passed the patriot act. It denied terrorist criminals the right to counsel before interrogation. It denied them the right to a jury trial. His administration wrote up allowances to torture these criminals (assuming they are convicted). All of these items are in the Constitution, theat you radical rightists love to cite. He and his cronies also expanded the use of wiretaps without court approval. Who knows who was listened to.
His cronies also had fired various people in the justice department because they did not show party loyalty.
obama has done nothing compared to your friend George Bush.

Don't worry

Quality Assurance Specialist
DCMA
Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:18 AM

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One more little glimpse under the shroud of secrecy...way to go

Re: Don't worry

Observer
Kingdom of Fed
Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM
Quality Assurance Specialist/DCMA - Watch out for the "black helicopters"!!!

Re: Don't worry

Quality Assurance Specialist
DCMA
Tue Sep 1, 2009 10:00 AM
Not concerned about Black Helicopters, politicians who claim to be watching out for America is my concern....after all, when their talking , their lips are moving and the old saying about knowing when a politician is lying comes to mind. But I guess a smart man like Observer would believe anything "the gang that couldn't tell the truth" tells him.
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