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Federal Security Clearances and the Role of the MSPB and the Courts

There's more to this than is reported.

Computer Operator
DOD/NSA
Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:50 PM

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In my more than two decades working with a high govt clearance I can say that most of my coworkers routinely committed all three of the acts Mr. Stoyanov's accused of. None of them were ever treated this way even after being confronted. There has to be more to this than we have been told. You sell your soul to the devil when you apply for a clearance job with the govt and you don't get it back until you leave. Indeed, in some ways you never get it back as the govt holds you accountable until you die for the protection of classified information you were privy to while employed. There really is no recourse for a suspended clearance. You just have to move on and count yourself as a victim of abuse.

Re: There's more to this than is reported.

I/S Specialist
DOD
Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:54 PM
I would not be too quick to say that there is more to it. All the good Doctor had to do was to displease one of the key investigators and away goes his security clearance. Yes, it is just that easy and that simple. These security people are extremely powerful folks and if they want to they will use that power. I have seen it happen.

Federal Security Clearances

Physical Scientist
USACE
Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:15 PM

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In our organization, we had an individual wear a recording device into a secure area. He apparently wanted to record his supervisors, but was caught with the device on him. They temporarily suspended his clearance and the Army Central Adjudication Facility finally revoked the clearance. He went through the same suspension without pay routine and time delay as the person in this article. What worries us law abiding citizens (coworkers), is that an administrative judge reinstated his clearance and he's back at work handling classified information. Seems that intentionally violating security regulations isn't so bad if your lawyer's good.

More than we're being told

Adjudicator
INS
Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:37 AM

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It may be true that workers routinely commit the three acts the good doctor did, but it certainly is NOT true that they should be allowed to do so, confronted or not.

My question here centers of the doctor's background. If he is a U.S. citizen by birth, my suspicions are somewhat assuaged. But if he is foreign-born and educated, I would like to know how he came here, how and when he naturalized, etc. Our naturalization requirements are so ridiculously lax that it is at least possible for terrorists with long-range plans to make it here, become citizens, and do whatever they want.

Non-Classified Work

Engineer
DoD
Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:04 AM

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Was there ZERO work at Naval Surface Warfare Center that required a security clearance? The process SHOULD BE: if a person's clearance is TEMPORARILY revoked and under reivew, to have them continue to work on NON-classified jobs until final determination.

In this case, security clearance was granted...in other words the original suspension was not upheld.

This individual should have got all back pay because in the end, the Govt said nothing was wrong.

The problem is there are no repurcussion for false suspensions. Management could have EASILY found non-classified work for the individual to perform, but he pissed someone off & they retaliated while hiding behind vague reasons: "lack of candor when questioned"

he got off easy

Union Member
Treasury
Mon Oct 5, 2009 10:34 AM

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Falsification of time records, I assume that means he claimed to have worked hours that he did not work. The employee should've been charged with forgery and or fraud, fired and denied unemployment.

stupid

Catlady
DOD
Tue Dec 1, 2009 3:16 PM

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you know sometimes people totally amaze me--if you are any part of the Federal agency you must act like you have a little bit of brains..
wow..

Understand

Gov employee
dod
Thu Dec 3, 2009 7:30 AM

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I know exactly how you feel--they have so call gone after me for the past 10 years..every two years. I don't own anything except my house when I inherited it last december--I have past charge off on my credit that were discharged --they want me to pay the debts that were discharged.I will NOT--now they tell me that since 2007 my clearance was denied--this investigation started in 2003----now what is wrong with this picture. I went to Credit counseling yesterday to show that I am attempting to clear my problems up...but I am so tired of them coming after me and accusing me of possibly accepting foreign funds--it makes me mad...I love this country and would NOT do anything like that --
and look at what happened at Ft/ Hood...real good shot on his security clearance...

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