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Contractor Considered Agency Employee in EO Case Says Court

EEO Coverage

Fiscally Responsible Fed
Somewhere
Thu Oct 1, 2009 7:36 AM

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This is a sound decision since there are plenty of agencies that have contract employees working side-by-side with federal employees.

EO Case Says Court

engineer
USACE
Thu Oct 1, 2009 9:18 AM

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I think this is the correct decision in this case, and would apply to many contract workers. It reminds of the words of James Whitcomb Riley

"When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck."

CONTRACTORS ?

ANALYSIS
USMC
Thu Oct 1, 2009 11:31 AM

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I don't think that contractors should be employeed
for DoD civilian/military work.
It creates problems in the work place.
Contractors want to be treated as DoD Civilain employees - which they are not (this has created major problems for our command and caused dislike between the civilians/military & the contractors).
A head Company contractor told our CO that he did not want his contractors working with one of the Majors because he was demanding during testing (even though it was in the SOW that for testing the contractor would support the test and report to the Major for testing assignments). The Major identified problems with their work.
As for this story:Contractors should NOT have access to DoD Civilian/Miltiary personal info.
Rationale: The contractors are not under the same rules & regulations for private information.
As a security investigator they would have access to all the DoD civilian/Military information -- which is illegal.

contrators

ao
fed
Thu Oct 1, 2009 12:42 PM

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i degree with analysis usmc100%. i had work with contractors with the DOD. Trust me they can't work well with the civilian or federl employees.

Re: contrators

admin assist
doe
Thu Oct 1, 2009 5:15 PM
ao - How do the basic written communication skills of contractors measure up?

contractors

electronics technician
noaa
Fri Oct 2, 2009 8:39 AM

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This is really a no brainer; if you didn't hire the guy
and you are not his/her supervisior , your only option
is report it to your supervisior; example: we have a
contractor janitor who is really rude and crude and that's putting it nicely. I would have filled a formal complant on the guy imitately had he been a Fed
,but he wasn't and after I reported the problem
everything somehow got cleared up which is all I wanted.

Contractor Considered Agency Employee

DoD Civil Servant
TRADOC
Mon Oct 5, 2009 10:32 AM

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I TOATALLY AGREE WITH THE EARLIER COMMENT AND ECHO IT AGAIN. "I don't think that contractors should be employeed for DoD civilian/military work. It creates problems in the work place. Contractors want to be treated as DoD Civilain employees...." AND SOME SENIOR LEADERS WANT TO INCLUDE THE CONTRACTORS TO DO WORK WHICH IS INHERENT IN NATURE - "which they are not (this has created major problems for our command and caused dislike between the civilians/military & the contractors)." Senior leadership hear the same JAG spill that said DoD civilians and contractors were different....however leadership is the problem as well This continues to be a big problem!.....

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