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Smoking Battle Continues in Federal Bureaucracy

No Smoking

Program Manager
DoD
Mon Aug 9, 2004 6:39 AM

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If you want to kill yourself smoking (or overeating) that is your business... as long as it does not intrude on my rights. Your smoking in my space affects me whereas my not smoking does not affect you no matter where you are. Ban should include within 50' of doorways also, since smokers think they should stand as close to an entrance as possible! ... it's really a matter of being considerate of others.

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Financial Manager
DOD
Mon Aug 9, 2004 7:09 AM
This should be a dead issue, get over it.

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Admin. Officer
Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
Mon Aug 9, 2004 8:42 AM
Get over it indeed! Smoking has been a part of our culture since long before I was born. If people don't have their heads too far in the sand, just look around. People are smoking in the movies, on T.V. and most everywhere else. If a problem is being created by smokers, then find a way to accommodate the smokers, like setting up special areas where smoking is legal, and doesn't offend the righteous holier-than-thou non-smokers.

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Engineer
FAA
Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:54 AM
Admin. Officer, welcome to the modern world, where science has discovered that second hand smoke harms people.

Can I engage in a hobby that would endanger you if I sat next to you? For example, if I sat next to you, and was an asbestos artist, using the stuff freely and in large quantities, blowing the stuff thru the air as I let my creativity flow freely, would you object to breathing large quantities of asbestos. After all, asbestos has been part of our culture long before I was born.

Sounds like you're a big spending Democrat, with your talk of setting up special smoking areas. Big government spending on special smoking ventilation and bleeding heart liberal talk about people's smoking rights is not the way to go.

Re: No Smoking

IT Specialist
DFAS
Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:48 AM
To All.
If selling tobacco became illegal today, it would become the #1 illegal drug sold in America tomorrow. The US goverment has allowed the tobacco companies to addict so many American for so long, and now to say they should pay more heath insurance is stupid. Our tobacco companies are and have been one of the richest group of people in America's history. The goverment and the tobacco companies should pay all costs to get people off tobacco since they are the one's who allow this to happen in the first place.

Smoking

Supervisory HR specialist
NOAA
Mon Aug 9, 2004 7:05 AM

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I started my career in the early 70's when smoking in federal offices was prevalent. I do not want to see a return to smoking being permitted in public buildings anywhere. I do not wanted to be subjected to smoke from others.

Smoking

ER Specialist
DFAS
Mon Aug 9, 2004 7:54 AM

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I think that part of the resentment non smokers have against smokers is not the smoking itself but the fact that smokers tend to spend less time working than non smokers because of their frequent smoke breaks.

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HRS
DOI
Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:11 PM
It is not appropriate to stereotype smokers because of your preconceived idea of what a smoker looks like - “Not all smokers take excessive “smoke” breaks.” I am a smoker and my “smoke” breaks consist of an occasional morning & afternoon break and ½ hr lunch, which every employee is allowed to take.

I do agree that there are some people to take excessive breaks (I am not just talking about smokers). There are people who linger in the office wasting time, talk with co-workers, use the telephone excessively for personal calls, surf the net, etc. – do you suppose that they also should give up their “smoke” breaks?

NO SMOKING

MILITARY PERSONNEL TECHNICIAN
US ARMY HRC
Mon Aug 9, 2004 8:32 AM

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smokers are welcomed to go out and smoke during breaks and lunchtime, but many abuse the privilege and go during other times. perhaps, nonsmokers can go out for snack breaks other then breaks and lunch.

Smoking

Quality Control Mgr
DOD
Mon Aug 9, 2004 8:52 AM

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Let them smoke outside, I think the Government Is over the line on this issue.

Smoking ban

IT Specialist
USACE
Mon Aug 9, 2004 9:20 AM

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Unlike other additions (life style choices) like eating junk food, that have no health effects on others, smoking does and; therefore, needs to be banned where it can affect the health of others. We have had a no smoking ban in place ever since we moved into our new building almost 20 years ago. This building was built airtight for energy efficient; therefore, all the smoke would stay in the building. It was therefore decided that smoking inside the building would be ban and smokers would have to go out side to smoke. Since then smoking has been ban in all DOD buildings and the restriction has been make that you have to be at some distance from any entrance.

Re: Smoking Battle Continues in Federal Bureaucracy

Staff Attorney
Education
Mon Aug 9, 2004 9:32 AM

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The Jackson Federal Building in Seattle, the 36-story main federal building, is completely smoke-free, having eliminated first smoking in designated areas of the building cafeteria, then on the indoor loading dock, and finally, in the face of too many complaints from employees and the public about having to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into or out of the builidng, within a 50-foot building perimeter on the outside.

I believe the policy here is a reasonable one and has not caused serious hardship to employees or to agency operations.

Please don't waste everybody's time entertaining or advancing specious arguments about discrimination. OF COURSE, it's discrimination, but that's a red herring. Discrimination against smokers and smoking is perfectly legal and that's unlikely to change. The workplace isn't required to accommodate active addictions (which is what smoking tobacco was and is for me personally), especially with widely available programs to deal with the addiction, many of them free, provided by the employer, or covered by health insurance. And if it's a simple "personal choice" it should be a simple matter for people to choose not to smoke during the work day, in the same way that I choose, for instance, to forego my clothing preferences of shorts and sandals during the work day.

There's far too much time and energy spent on this whole issue. It should be banned at work - in fact, I'm really surprised that there is even a lingering issue of smoking in the workplace; I had believed indoor smoking was banned in all federal work places - and should be off the table for discussion. There are many more important things to deal with.

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