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Smoking, Dress Codes, and Union Politics

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Manager
HHS
Wed May 25, 2005 8:53 AM

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It is unfortunate that some union officials seem to have the view that any restrictions on employees are something to be done away with. In our agency, some employees dress in ways that would be inappropriate at the beach or a sleazy bar. The union thinks a manager who dares to discuss image, public perception and general inappropriate dress for a federal employee is infringing on a perceived right of a employee to dress in any manner with no restrictions. Unfortunately, as long as this attitude persists, and there is no sign of it going away, this attempt to "help" employees is going to further degrade the public's perception of federal employees. Unions could provide a service but at many facilities they are nothing but a stumbling block to creating a professional organization which would benefit all taxpayers who are paying for our salaries and benefits!

Smoking in the Workplace

Human Res.
USDA
Wed May 25, 2005 9:14 AM

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I don't like smoking, I have seen several relatives die from the effects, however, if the person was hired before this rule came into effect, then it's not fair to the employee to not give them a place to smoke. I have heard that you may now hire and tell the interviewee that not smoking is allowed, however, it should be grandfathered in.

Re: Smoking in the Workplace

Mental Health Specialist
Public Health Service
Wed May 25, 2005 12:02 PM
Wow! I cannot understand how some people think. Where do they get the idea that smoking was ever a right. Smoking in not a right, it is a priviledge and priviledges can be taken away. Just ask any parent who chooses to take priviledges away from their child(ren). Some employees are acting like childing when they get their candy taken away. I have been working for the govt over 30 years. There is not mention in my job duties, requirements or whatever that say I have the "right" to smoke. So how can you grandfather something in that was never in to begin with? Smoking should be banned whereever possible and maybe more lives will be saved and we would have a more healthier society. The cost of health care is skyrocking and much of that is because of problems caused from smoking. As far as a dress code, I feel that we need some guidelines to how we present ourselved in the public eye. If we are one of those employees that never see the sun or the public because we are in some hidden office way off in the basement somewhere, then maybe we do not need to restrict what is worn. But, for those who are in direct contact with the public, should exerecise some responsibility on how they dress. Casual dress can be accepted as long as people do not confused it with "everything" goes. To be neat and to dress neat only reflects how one feels about themselves. I do not wear a tie or a suit but I dress neatly and the public knows that I reflect a better image when they come to me for counseling that I am different than, lets say, the drug dealer down the street who is dressing appropriately to what he/she does or even the hookers as someone mention in here. For the most part, neatness in dress garners more respect and lets face it, in some jobs, respect is what we need to do our jobs. I am for a dress code that makes people more aware of how they present themselves in the public eye. Oversized sweatshirts, flip-flops, ragged jeans, etc should be out.

Re: Smoking in the Workplace

budget analyst
dod
Wed Jun 1, 2005 11:42 AM
maybe we should ban "twinkies & ho ho's" too. i for one don't want to be a witness from some over weight over indulged federal employee dying from a heart attack in the cubie next to me. let's see who out there agrees.

Dress Codes

HR Specialist
USDA
Wed May 25, 2005 1:25 PM

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I don't understand the Union's stance against appropriate attire. Of course they only seem to represent the substandard employee anyway. Generally speaking, good employees don't have a need for union representation. It is totally unprofessional to see employee's sauntering around the workplace in shower shoes and shorts, and in many instances it looks like they haven't even bathed. As federal employees, we represent the government, and what our civilian customers see, is how they determine what we are,and how professional we are. An appropriate for the job, and a professional appearance should be required everywhere in federal government, but for some reason many managers are not willing to take this on, and in some cases they are one of the offenders. In fact, our union president is the biggest offender of any dress code.

dress codes

jAMIE DEYTON LEAD SUPPLY TECHNICIAN
DOL SUPPLY DIVISION FT LEWIS WASHINGTON
Thu Jun 9, 2005 10:52 AM

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i feel that a dress code is a wonderful idea, and should be implemented as soon as possible. i am of the younger generation of civil service employees and i must agree with some of the other statements made. most people i work with look like they just rolled out of bed when they come to work. if they are not willing to pay for their own clothes, look for some type of cheap uniform like the postal service has? make everyone where the same thing. like a polo shirt with the company emblem with khaki pants or navy blue pants for summer and a nice denim long sleeve shirt with a white t-shirt underneath or a nice sweatshirt for winter, but i do agree that a dress code for federal employees regardless if you are in a cubicle or not is in desperate need.

Re: dress codes

Analyst
USDA
Fri Jun 1, 2007 5:59 AM
Sure, wear a uniform and drop by the store on the way home from work. You will look like one of the store employees and everyone can ask you where things are. Maybe you can remember the outline of the store so well that you can direct people to the correct isle. Then you can go to the store management and request payment for your services.

Dress Code

ADmin Asst
SSA
Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:31 PM

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There is too much emphasis placed on dress codes. Lets evaluate the way in which he/she performs the duties of the position. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

Now ofcourse there are basic parameters one must follow regarding the types of wardrobe worn to work, however lets place emphasis on more important issues that are existing in the workplace.

Re: Dress Code

Computer Specialist
USCG
Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:58 PM
I agree and what a great idea. A uniform is an excellent way to create a standard which everyone can reach. There are no questions as to what is appropriate. Our military counter parts where ODU's which I think look great. I'm all for it.
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